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30-08-2019, 09:40 AM | #251 | ||
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30-08-2019, 09:55 AM | #252 | |||
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Here is the thing, what Boris is doing now is cynical ... i don't think anyone being honest would disagree with that. It would be undemocratic if Boris had shut parliament down permanently, but he is shutting it down for a very specific interval so although people can be rightly frustrated about it, there isn't a single party in parliament that wouldn't do exactly the same thing if the circumstances they found themselves in justified it.
Over the last 3 years, our entire parliament has been cynical. MP's who were brexiteers voted against the deal, thats cynical MP's voted to take over the business in parliament, that's cynical. They forced a whole range of different votes, and nothing was approved. That's MP's being cynical For a year, May was delaying putting the vote to parliament, waiting to the last possible moment for a vote, to try and force a deal upon the nation, that's cynical May put the same bill to parliament 3 times, to try and force it through, thats cynical The speaker cherry picked items in a biased way, that's cynical Corbyn and the labour party have been transparent in their attempts to exploit the situation to try and grab power, thats cynical So again, i can see why people are frustrated at the cynical action of Boris, but, no-one in parliament over these last 3 years has behaved any differently to him |
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30-08-2019, 10:14 AM | #253 | |||
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The "parliament are not sitting for 4 weeks anyway due to conference" argument falls on its arse immediately, if parliament are not sitting due to conference, why the need to formally suspend it?
Unless you are making sure that even if they could, should or needed to, they couldn't?
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30-08-2019, 10:17 AM | #254 | ||
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... and that's the real point Kizzy. Well said. Also NO modern PM or government has done this for so long a period either. Last edited by joeysteele; 30-08-2019 at 10:20 AM. |
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30-08-2019, 10:18 AM | #255 | |||
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30-08-2019, 10:20 AM | #256 | ||
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30-08-2019, 10:20 AM | #257 | |||
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30-08-2019, 10:29 AM | #258 | |||
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the word is exploited, not subverted. There is a difference. MP's exploit processes for their own purposes all the time. It's the nature of the beast
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30-08-2019, 10:29 AM | #259 | ||
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The man who started dressing like a Victorian banker when he was a child
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30-08-2019, 10:31 AM | #260 | ||
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The UK is a mess at the moment, it's very sad.
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30-08-2019, 10:32 AM | #261 | |||
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30-08-2019, 10:34 AM | #262 | |||
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30-08-2019, 10:35 AM | #263 | |||
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30-08-2019, 10:36 AM | #264 | ||
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30-08-2019, 10:40 AM | #265 | |||
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Evidence vs feelings.
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30-08-2019, 10:46 AM | #266 | |||
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Judge has refused to order temporary halt to parliament suspension plans.
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30-08-2019, 10:54 AM | #267 | |||
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30-08-2019, 10:57 AM | #268 | |||
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Yet you are all for children dressing up as they want just the other day
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30-08-2019, 11:05 AM | #269 | |||
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30-08-2019, 11:08 AM | #270 | |||
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30-08-2019, 11:11 AM | #271 | |||
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30-08-2019, 11:26 AM | #272 | |||
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The only thing that has been exploited here is the truth, luckily Ben Wallace let it slip, so not as many of us are under any illusion as to the intention here. By you suggesting he is exploiting parliamentary process is basically an admittance that proves he has some reason or purpose to serve in suspending parliament ... and that reason is to prevent parliamentary process.
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30-08-2019, 11:35 AM | #273 | ||
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30-08-2019, 11:42 AM | #274 | |||
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30-08-2019, 11:44 AM | #275 | |||
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Is this constitutional crisis a molehill?
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