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I'm ashamed for Liverpool when it's supporters are pushing tory/murdoch propaganda.

Shankly would be turning in his ****ing grave at this BS
if the Opposition parties actually had their **** together and respected what the public voted instead of only caring about what they want then things could be different
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Corbyn would be the much worse prime minister though, the jews will be sidelined and terrorists allowed to roam the street with out punishment
If your only defence of the current Prime Minister is that a hypothetical other person maybe could be might be worse, you've lost the defence.
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if the Opposition parties actually had their **** together and respected what the public voted instead of only caring about what they want then things could be different
Here's the thing, no one voted for a no deal. Farage campaigned to leave with a deal, all the prominent tories spoke about how we'd be in the driving seat to make new and even better deals. Shutting down parliament is the antithesis of democracy.

You can be pro leave, but anti no-deal which everyone says is the worst of all outcomes for us,

When you just verbatim the crap about the Corbyn stuff, it doesn't reflect well on you. The Palestinians are living under the same apartheid state that the South Africans did, supporting their rights does not make you an anti-semite. Mandela was regarded as a terrorist at one time, would anyone now be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser if they supported him?
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Here's the thing, no one voted for a no deal. Farage campaigned to leave with a deal, all the prominent tories spoke about how we'd be in the driving seat to make new and even better deals. Shutting down parliament is the antithesis of democracy.

You can be pro leave, but anti no-deal which everyone says is the worst of all outcomes for us,

When you just verbatim the crap about the Corbyn stuff, it doesn't reflect well on you. The Palestinians are living under the same apartheid state that the South Africans did, supporting their rights does not make you an anti-semite. Mandela was regarded as a terrorist at one time, would anyone now be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser if they supported him?
We wouldnt be in a no deal situation if people wouldnt vote down each deals because they want to stay and not leave
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I honestly can't understand why younger people would be for leaving without a deal. It's them it will have the most impact on. Its hard enough to get on the property ladder now but when we are in the grips of another very hard recession, with record unemployment, job shortages etc etc it will be nigh on impossible. I am trying really hard to see what benefits leaving with no deal with bring.......and short term I see none.......long term, I see even less.
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I honestly can't understand why younger people would be for leaving without a deal. It's them it will have the most impact on. Its hard enough to get on the property ladder now but when we are in the grips of another very hard recession, with record unemployment, job shortages etc etc it will be nigh on impossible. I am trying really hard to see what benefits leaving with no deal with bring.......and short term I see none.......long term, I see even less.
For Some Youngers
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Because of tory Austerity. Can you not see how the system was manipulated to make people more willing to try anything, because it can't be worse than what it's own government was doing to hurt it's own people. That's how you make people susceptible to the lying conmen.
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We wouldnt be in a no deal situation if people wouldnt vote down each deals because they want to stay and not leave
There is no deal we can get that's better than what we already have, so you're asking people to vote to make our country worse off, and that's with a deal. All of your ire should be against the people that lied and told you that the day after the referendum, the Germans would come begging, or the people that told you that we'd be able to decide what deals we wanted and which ones we didn't.

You're angry at the people trying to protect you from the people who lied to you, and that's ****ing ridiculous.
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We have got such a cushy deal IN the EU, cause the EU foolishly bent over backwards many times to try and keep the UK happy.
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I honestly can't understand why younger people would be for leaving without a deal. It's them it will have the most impact on. Its hard enough to get on the property ladder now but when we are in the grips of another very hard recession, with record unemployment, job shortages etc etc it will be nigh on impossible. I am trying really hard to see what benefits leaving with no deal with bring.......and short term I see none.......long term, I see even less.
I am hoping that house prices will drop.
Might be the glimmer of hope in all this ruddy mess.
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I am hoping that house prices will drop.
Might be the glimmer of hope in all this ruddy mess.
House prices probably will but that will throw a lot of people back into a negative equity cycle.....unemployment will rise so there will not be many people in a position to buy as the banks will be very nervous of lending money again - people with big mortgages will not be able to sell and downsize as they will owe more than the house is worth etc etc....
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it's honestly not worth getting excited about. Whatever happens, we will deal with it as we always have

My concern is on the opportunity for groups to exploit the runup to the 31st and the safety of MP's I think is a critical concern
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Thanks to David Cameron this country will be divided on whatever decisions get made going forward, and that is including with the Tory party.
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it's honestly not worth getting excited about. Whatever happens, we will deal with it as we always have

My concern is on the opportunity for groups to exploit the runup to the 31st and the safety of MP's I think is a critical concern

Yes Labour MP Clive Lewis said he will not leave Parliament...............



Drag the Bugger out with Police .................
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Thanks to David Cameron this country will be divided on whatever decisions get made going forward, and that is including with the Tory party.

Sure Dave took a Gamble
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Sure Dave took a Gamble
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Calling Obama a fool and defending trump. You've sank low mate
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Jacob has gone UP
to Scotland to officially get the Queen to sign it.

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Yes Labour MP Clive Lewis said he will not leave Parliament...............



Drag the Bugger out with Police .................
I think, or at least I hope he meant violent far right thugs with a history of killings and planned killings of democratically elected politicians trying to protect people like you from yourself.
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He jumped the shark a while ago. It's about winning to these folks, not consequences.
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We wouldnt be in a no deal situation if people wouldnt vote down each deals because they want to stay and not leave
Tbf in a vote where the majority pulled in 51.8% and obviously only narrowly won a vote that is a very serious topic, of course it's gonna be hard to get the outcome that you want if you're in the majority because it's not Big Brother where it's an entertainment show where you can win with 50.01% of the vote, this country will be messing with people's jobs, businesses could possibly pull out of the country, we will also have to join new trade deals with other countries, and of course raise prices in shops on what we can and can't buy because our pound is weakening due to Brexit (which the stats don't lie) so of course there will be a lot of people trying to stop Brexit from happening within Parliament.
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I think, or at least I hope he meant violent far right thugs with a history of killings and planned killings of democratically elected politicians trying to protect people like you from yourself.

I am not far right


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