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09-09-2019, 02:40 PM | #1 | |||
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09-09-2019, 02:42 PM | #2 | ||
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Outstanding speaker, will be missed
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09-09-2019, 02:44 PM | #3 | |||
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I’d stand down if Boris was PM too. Bercow must feel like he goes to work for nothing to get done.
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09-09-2019, 02:47 PM | #4 | ||
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Bercow pulling the rug from under Johnson and Co and their pathetic vindictiveness.
A true parliamentarian. Good luck to him. Last edited by joeysteele; 09-09-2019 at 02:48 PM. |
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09-09-2019, 02:55 PM | #5 | |||
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09-09-2019, 03:45 PM | #6 | |||
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Good job,he is supposed to be impartial,something he is not
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09-09-2019, 03:57 PM | #7 | |||
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A great loss, the only person in that room that tries to keep things sane and civil
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09-09-2019, 04:04 PM | #8 | ||
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He's there to make sure the rules of Parliament are upheld. That he has done. He's not there as a yes person to anyone or Party. Those against him just don't like that he's highlighted the wrongs of the present administration in power. Who wanted to steamroll and ride roughshed over due parliamentary processes and opinion. |
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09-09-2019, 04:11 PM | #9 | |||
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I hope they can get someone as principled as Bercow who isn't intimidated by the bullingdon bullies either.
Very sad to see him step down.
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09-09-2019, 04:15 PM | #10 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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He's great! Shame tbh
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09-09-2019, 04:21 PM | #11 | |||
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09-09-2019, 04:30 PM | #12 | |||
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modern Speaker is politically impartial and expected to avoid taking a political stance or favouring particular interests over others. To ensure this, the Speaker is expected to resign from their party on appointment*and do not campaign in general elections – usually standing unopposed by the major political parties. However, they are still a serving MP and undertake constituency work.
The role of the Speaker is almost as old as Parliament itself and has evolved significantly over time. Originally the Speaker was the monarch’s de facto representative in Parliament. From the 18th*century onwards, the Speaker gained greater independence, beginning to represent the collective voice of Parliament. Right, so explain to me what the speaker has done that would would suggest he is not impartial? His job as representative is to speak for the collective in the commons. ..he is, so where's the problem. https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...-house-commons
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09-09-2019, 04:34 PM | #13 | ||
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Exactly, he hasn't let himself be and wouldn't let others in parliament be bullied in Parliament. Like it seems some voters would support , for Johnson and co anyway. Sad to lose his experience and impartial stance as to true democratic process in parliament. |
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09-09-2019, 04:37 PM | #14 | ||
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09-09-2019, 04:37 PM | #15 | ||
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That's why some rabid hard-line Con or hardest brexit supporters think he isn't impartial. There's no other reason Kizzy. Last edited by joeysteele; 09-09-2019 at 04:48 PM. |
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09-09-2019, 05:34 PM | #16 | |||
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I've never liked Bercow, I think he is a particularly unpleasant man, a bully, and he does further his own agenda, which is bias. He may be fairly neutral in political terms, but that does not mean he is not biased.
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09-09-2019, 05:50 PM | #17 | |||
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09-09-2019, 05:53 PM | #18 | |||
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He always loved the sound of his own voice, and he is a remainer so as a remainer I think it is difficult for him to be impartial, didn't he dig up some thousand year old law to block something or other.... if the speaker was a leaver he wouldn't be impartial either so...they aren't robots so they are bound to be swayed by their own beliefs, be interesting to see who takes his place and what side they come down on!
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09-09-2019, 06:03 PM | #19 | |||
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Yes it does, being politically neutral is exactly what 'not biased' or unbiased means. He of course is entitled to a personal opinion, which he is free to express when not in his role of speaker
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09-09-2019, 06:15 PM | #20 | |||
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don't be ridiculous, there are many forms of bias other than political bias
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09-09-2019, 06:23 PM | #21 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Started as a good speaker but in the last year or so he's overturned precedent and constitutional norms whenever hes felt like it in order to further his own agenda
Not to mention his massive ego and his history of bullying young staff particularly women |
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09-09-2019, 06:31 PM | #22 | |||
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Says it all really.
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09-09-2019, 06:31 PM | #23 | ||
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If people think him bad.
Betty Boothroyd would have wiped the floor with this government. Bercow has been a strong speaker. Who has helped ensure when possible all right and legitimate scrutiny of this deceitful last 2 Prime Ministers and government. |
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09-09-2019, 07:14 PM | #24 | ||
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And what would this "own agenda" be?
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09-09-2019, 07:19 PM | #25 | ||
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What Gove said about Bercow today
Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, is speaking now. He says Bercow was a tenacious backbencher, and frontbencher too. He says he has no wish to prematurely truncate Bercow’ role in the chair. He says he has always appreciated the way Bercow has tried to ensure the executive has been held to account. He says Bercow has acted in the best tradition of Speakers. He says Bercow has tried to make the executive answerable to the Commons, just as the house is answerable to the people. The Guardian |
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