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Old 10-09-2019, 11:30 AM #51
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I have just heard they spend 83 minutes paying tribute to him.....what a waste of time the night before Parliament shuts down, and he allowed it??? baffling!
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I have just heard they spend 83 minutes paying tribute to him.....what a waste of time the night before Parliament shuts down, and he allowed it??? baffling!
At the end of the day Cherie, the vast majority of Westminster politicians (especially those late in their careers) have absolutely no element of personal risk in Brexit... and that's part of what makes it so scary. Yes, they can be passionate about it. Yes, many care deeply about what happens to the country. But none of them are going to have less comfortable lives on a personal level based on the outcome. They have homes abroad, they have assets and investment portfolios, they have large off-shore private pension funds. More than enough to live comfortable lives 'til the end of their days, even if the UK economy collapses over-night on the 31st of October.

Bercow doesn't want it to happen, I'm sure it makes him very angry, but personally? He's going to be just fine, so he's allowed himself a moment (or 83 apparently) to have his ego stroked a bit.

Of course, some like Mr Johnson & friends most likely have their investments organised specifically to benefit from such an outcome.

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Shame, I like him a lot

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At the end of the day Cherie, the vast majority of Westminster politicians (especially those late in their careers) have absolutely no element of personal risk in Brexit... and that's part of what makes it so scary. Yes, they can be passionate about it. Yes, many care deeply about what happens to the country. But none of them are going to have less comfortable lives on a personal level based on the outcome. They have homes abroad, they have assets and investment portfolios, they have large off-shore private pension funds. More than enough to live comfortable lives 'til the end of their days, even if the UK economy collapses over-night on the 31st of October.

Bercow doesn't want it to happen, I'm sure it makes him very angry, but personally? He's going to be just fine, so he's allowed himself a moment (or 83 apparently) to have his ego stroked a bit.

Of course, some like Mr Johnson & friends most likely have their investments organised specifically to benefit from such an outcome.
I couldn't agree more, it was just the idea that he was made out to be practically some kind of saint when he has essentially picked a time to resign that he will be remembered for and will go down in history...this idea that he is some paragon of virtue who was the best thing since sliced bread is kinda laughable, not to mention the complete glossing over of the bullying of young women allegations
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I couldn't agree more, it was just the idea that he was made out to be practically some kind of saint when he has essentially picked a time to resign that he will be remembered for and will go down in history...this idea that he is some paragon of virtue who was the best thing since sliced bread is kinda laughable, not to mention the complete glossing over of the bullying of young women allegations
He may be a knob sometimes but he singlehandedly revived parliamentary democracy
And for that he's one of the great speakers
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He didn't encourage the tributes to himself.

Through the time, it wasn't all just tributes, many were rising on points of order then coupling that with a message personally to him.

Nothing wrong I could see and apart from Gove, the fact it seemed to irritate the Con front bench.
Was good to see,.for me anyway.

I agree, unsurprisingly, with Twosugars, he is likely to be seen as one of the great speakers.
From his other reforming changes too.
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The tributes were fine. He's been a speaker for almost 10 years and it's a tradition to thank an outgoing speaker etc anyway.
They sat till late, he squeezed the Grieve papers release business and a corbyn motion for rule of law.
They achieved plenty on this last day.

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