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19-09-2019, 02:03 AM | #1 | |||
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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wore brownface during an 'Arabian Nights' school event in 2001, a spokesperson for his party confirms (Ref:CNN USA) Back in 2001 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49749851 [Speaking to journalists after the Time article was published, Mr Trudeau said that he was dressed in the photo in an Aladdin costume at an Arabian Nights-themed gala. He admitted that the photo was racist and said he recognised he "shouldn't have done it".] Last edited by arista; 19-09-2019 at 02:13 AM. |
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19-09-2019, 02:33 AM | #2 | |||
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What a racist.
He should probably resign. Don't think he will though, he likes his power too much. |
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19-09-2019, 02:37 AM | #3 | |||
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Inexcusable, but it says a lot about Canada's political climate that this could easily lose him the upcoming election, when it wouldn't even be in the top five political scandals of the week if it were... a certain other world leader involved
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19-09-2019, 02:45 AM | #4 | |||
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That's a good trick, just not good enough to get past me. Last edited by Alf; 19-09-2019 at 02:48 AM. |
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19-09-2019, 02:52 AM | #5 | |||
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Point proven
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19-09-2019, 02:59 AM | #6 | |||
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19-09-2019, 03:02 AM | #7 | |||
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I actually don't care that he attended a fancy dress party 18 years ago. It's just funny to see these identity politics pushers get a taste of their own medicine.
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19-09-2019, 04:18 AM | #8 | |||
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...He doesn’t in any way defend or excuse, he’s apologised unreservedly ...and that’s all he can do...
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19-09-2019, 04:43 AM | #9 | |||
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19-09-2019, 04:43 AM | #10 | |||
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The reason this is a big deal is simple. Trudeau is the one that is pushing anti discrimination and equal rights. It's at the forefront of his policies, so it is the height of hypocrisy.
He could have managed the situation by publishing the photo himself and apologising .... but he didn't. This isn't the first dodgy thing he has done either, he has shown himself to be corrupt. People that set themselves up as being perfect, fall the hardest. Last edited by bitontheslide; 19-09-2019 at 04:46 AM. |
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19-09-2019, 04:55 AM | #11 | |||
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...as MB said originally, it’s inexcusable and will most likely lose him the election...it’s not hypocrisy though if his integrity has travelled a journey in those years and if he has shown a balance of learning in his time in office, in his policies and his principles...I think this exceeds the statute of limitations in terms of hypocrisy, unless he had continued to display that lack of judgement...which does not appear to the world to be the case...
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19-09-2019, 04:57 AM | #12 | |||
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...I actually think it’s positive progression when someone who once black-faced, is now focusing on anti discrimination...
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19-09-2019, 05:13 AM | #13 | |||
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I've never Brown faced in my life. You can praise me for being even more positive for progression than Trudeau if you like. Last edited by Alf; 19-09-2019 at 05:21 AM. |
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19-09-2019, 06:02 AM | #14 | |||
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How bizarre, right wing figures blackface as adults and there are excuses after excuses made for them.. however a progressive does as a student and for some reason it's inexcusable, why is this?
It doesn't make it any more wrong if the person who black faced up is now a progressive does it? By the same token someone on the right is not less wrong due to their inability to see acknowledge the offence caused.
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19-09-2019, 06:14 AM | #15 | |||
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18 years ago would make him 29 so he hasn’t got the ‘I was young’ excuse on his side, bizarre
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19-09-2019, 06:30 AM | #16 | |||
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the facade always falls on these liberal politicians who think they are holier than thou when really they are just ****ing nutcases.
As soon as i knew his father was once prime minster and he was born on this path rather than working hard for it, I realised this whole story line he had created for him being a new face him politics here to save the world was completely made up and as fake as he is.
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19-09-2019, 06:34 AM | #17 | |||
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Ok forget the age relation portion of my post, the point I am making there is still valid. It would be bizarre to dismiss the whole premise due to the age issue.
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19-09-2019, 06:47 AM | #18 | |||
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19-09-2019, 07:07 AM | #19 | |||
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I don't know who these right wing adults are that black face, are they in the public eye and are they advising others on how not to discriminate is the point. Difficult to know who to trust when it comes to politics, are they in it for themselves and their ambition or do they really care
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19-09-2019, 07:07 AM | #20 | |||
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Nobody is perfect... this is the narrative that all progressives are holier than thou social justice warriors or pc snowflake virtue signallers! So somehow when they cock up its 100 times worse than if you're some unapologetic alt right wing fascist who just doesn't care. Thats the difference, we expect nothing more from them so we're not disappointed when it's found they're corrupt, and we should...everyone should be held to the same standard!
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19-09-2019, 07:07 AM | #21 | |||
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The picture was released by an American magazine by all accounts, The picture is almost certain to have been known of existing amongst Canadian journalists. So you have to wonder who's been covering it up? I imagine it was some people who's bank accounts got bigger.
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19-09-2019, 07:15 AM | #22 | ||
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18 years ago. Come on ffs.
I will freely admit that some of the things I did and said 18 years ago were utterly horrendous. I mean yes, I was only 16 so I do have the "just a kid" excuse but tbqfh I wasn't all that much better in my early 20's. I honestly believe that (not including actual criminal activity) people should only be judged on the last 5 or so years of their life, UNLESS it is clear that the person hasn't changed. Which is why people would be all over it if it was other prominent figures like Boris or Trump. You can imagine them doing the same thing tomorrow and thinking nothing of it. |
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19-09-2019, 07:22 AM | #23 | |||
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19-09-2019, 07:38 AM | #24 | |||
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Also views like these... https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffi...03de942972eaa/ Was he advising others how not to discriminate 18yrs ago, should his politics now make his past actions worse? As Ammi said is it not proof he's learnt and grown from his experience enough to now want to advise others today rather than scoff at the suggestion it's wrong or offensive?
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19-09-2019, 07:50 AM | #25 | |||
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i view this in exactly the same light as when Gove was snorting coke and then cracking down on it when in power. The difference is that Trudeau is the leader of the nation. If he makes out that he is beyond reproach (which he has) then he must face the consequences when he is found out.
There are easy ways that he could have dealt with it. When he was running for office, he could have said he was not perfect etc etc, but he didn't, he came across as someone that was the perfect model citizen that everyone else should aspire to being. That was his usp for getting the job. Hence why it is much more of an issue now when he has been found out. As Alf said, he has never black faced, neither have I. Why should Trudeau be considered a better person because he has supposedly changed his view now. A previous murderer is always considered a murderer no matter how many years ago they committed the crime or how many "good deeds" they have done since |
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