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Old 04-10-2019, 02:02 PM #1
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The Dutch government has decided to stop describing itself as Holland and will instead use only its real name – the Netherlands – as part of an attempted update of its global image.

The national rebranding, which has been signed up to by business leaders, the tourist board and central government, will be rolled out later this year.

Ministers want to shift the international focus from certain aspects of national life with which the country is commonly associated, such as its recreational drug culture and the red-light district of Amsterdam.

As part of the new strategy, the Netherlands will be the official brand at the Eurovision song contest, which takes place in Rotterdam next May, and during the Olympic Games in Tokyo in 2020.


The nation’s football team, which is often referred to abroad as Holland, will solely be called the Netherlands in any official setting.

A spokeswoman for the ministry of foreign affairs said the Netherlands needed a more uniform and coordinated national branding. She said: “We want to present the Netherlands as an open, inventive and inclusive country. We’ve modernised our approach.

“What is special is that agreement has now been reached with relevant parties from both the government, Netherlands Board of Tourism and Conventions and private organisations including top sectors and the Confederation of Netherlands Industry and Employers about the image of the Netherlands that we want to present to the rest of the world in a substantive and unambiguous manner.”

She said the government was taking a a user-friendly and pragmatic approach to its name in order to boost exports, tourism, sport and spread “Dutch culture, norms and values”. She said: “It has been agreed that the Netherlands, the official name of our country, should preferably be used.”

North and South Holland are provinces on the western coast of the Netherlands. From the 10th to the 16th century, Holland was one political unified entity and ruled by the counts of Holland.

By the 17th century it was the dominant part of what was then the Dutch Republic. The kingdom of the Netherlands, from the Dutch Neder-landen, meaning low countries, emerged out of the defeat of Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815.

Earlier this year, the Dutch tourist board, whose website address is Holland.com, said it would be moving its focus from promoting the Netherlands as a whole to drawing attention instead to less well-known parts of the country.

As many as 42 million people are forecast to visit the country annually by 2030, up from 18 million in 2018. Amsterdam’s well-known attractions are a major pull factor, leading to complaints of overcrowding in the Dutch capital.
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2 provinces of Holland, north and south, to the left

also notice the city of Eindhoven in the south, a tibb membership stronghold of one
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Don't really know why this is an issue tbh. But if its important to them, fine
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well, Vicky when people (like some yanks) call the UK England, it can be annoying

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well, Vicky when people (like some yanks) call the UK England, it can be annoying
Never came across that...fairly sure it wouldn't bother me (or I might not even pick up on it so I might have heard it before!) however, I can see why that would really piss of NI, Scottish and Wales like.

I have only every heard 'forgeiners' calling the UK 'London' though which I found amusing
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What they gonna do to me if I call it Holland?
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They're probably vegans. They wouldn't enjoy me, I'm all meat.

Speaking of eating people, anybody seen the video of the climate protester at an Alexandria Ocasio Cortez speak, who says we need to be eating babies? It's funny, but also disturbing. It's hard to tell if she's serious or a plant. Even Cortez is thinking, this women is crazy, and that's saying something.

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Fryslan, Drenthe, Overrijsel, Limburg, Noord-Brabant, Groningen all have their own traditions, cultures, even the accents are different from the ''ABN'' (algemeen beschaafd nederlands or accent free dutch)

fryslan also has it's own anthem which football club sc heerenveen plays at the start of every home match


Brabant, Limburg have traditions like Carnaval, and making own language/accent fun folk music usually the sort of music fitted with beer drinking and sculpture parades
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Holland is just another part of Germany
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well, Vicky when people (like some yanks) call the UK England, it can be annoying
The worst is when we all get called "London."

Don't get me wrong I have nothing against London (I've never been there) but I'm English/British, not London.

Basically like you I can get where the Netherlands are coming from.
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60's 70's we had outdoor ice skating competitions there, called ''elfstedentocht''

also speed skating world cups, world trophy's are being held in Thialf arena, something you gotta experience while visiting our country in the winter

people on stands there get warm fresh pea soup with sausage and ribs, a traditional food while watching that sort of sport event
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60's 70's we had outdoor ice skating competitions there, called ''elfstedentocht''

also speed skating world cups, world trophy's are being held in Thialf arena, something you gotta experience while visiting our country in the winter

people on stands there get warm fresh pea soup with sausage and ribs, a traditional food while watching that sort of sport event
My mother's old best friend, who's no longer with us, she was Dutch, when we were younger she used to cook us something called Nasi, it was rice, egg, sausage, bacon, onion and Magi seasoning sauce all fried in a pan.
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Holland sounds very dated anyway.. swear everyone just calls it the netherlands nowadays
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