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07-10-2019, 01:59 PM | #26 | ||
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I fundamentally disagree, but it would take me more time than I have right now to elaborate. I might later . I guess all I'll say in the shortest terms is, he's mistaking "completely different" with "inferior".
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07-10-2019, 02:02 PM | #27 | ||
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I cannot stand half the superhero type movies, and have not seen many marvel stuff (unless gavin has it on and am half watching) but of course they are cinema..hell, possibly moreso than some Scorsese films! I agree he could have just told the truth and said..I don't like Marvel movis, instead of this nonsense
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07-10-2019, 02:24 PM | #28 | |||
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Not to be "that guy", but what social relevance? There have been black superhero movies for decades tbh
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07-10-2019, 02:45 PM | #29 | |||
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07-10-2019, 02:49 PM | #30 | |||
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I'd be interested to hear!
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07-10-2019, 02:52 PM | #31 | |||
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07-10-2019, 02:52 PM | #32 | |||
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Apart from the Blade films, what other black superhero films have there been? |
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07-10-2019, 02:53 PM | #33 | ||
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Only one I can think of is hancock..if hes meant to be a superhero
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07-10-2019, 02:57 PM | #34 | |||
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Spawn? Who's that guy that looks like Venom? |
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07-10-2019, 02:58 PM | #35 | ||
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Black Panther showed that you could tell a successful authentic story featuring black characters and culture that didn't rely on stereotypes or belittlement. Black Panther's critical, financial success along with the adoration of the audience, when you consider all the factors, was unheard of. If the MCU ever does come to an end, Black Panther will likely be one of the films that will remain relevant and beloved. |
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07-10-2019, 03:06 PM | #36 | |||
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07-10-2019, 03:06 PM | #37 | |||
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...one of the scenes filmed was a ‘record breaking scene..’...for any known dialogue scene.../...it had over 120 takes with her swinging a bat at Jack Nicholson...it was reported that she was sobbing hysterically between the takes...with Kubrick telling others not to speak to her...and then he finally got the ‘reality’ of his shot...when he emotionally drained her and isolated her from any comfort... |
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07-10-2019, 03:08 PM | #38 | |||
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He's more of an Anti Hero I would have thought
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07-10-2019, 03:09 PM | #39 | |||
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Black Panther has a rating of 7.3 on IMDB
That doesn't sound like it was overly impressive with the public. Not seen it myself, so I couldn't tell you anything about it. |
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07-10-2019, 03:10 PM | #40 | |||
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...having just watched Avengers: Endgame...I would completely disagree with him, there is a huge depth to it, so many threads running through it and a huge stretch of emotions throughout...it stretches you from one side of the emotional plain to the other...it’s surely a movie that for me would require a few watches to completely absorb...that wouldn’t be a definition of any kind of ‘shallow’ movie...
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07-10-2019, 03:10 PM | #41 | |||
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I think I get (and agree with) what he's saying: they're largely crowdpleasers and meant to wow people in the same sense that fireworks displays and theme parks are. I'm sure there are thousands of people who take the same sort of emotional impact from these films as others do with the likes of The Departed/The Godfather/No Country for Old Men etc... but they're usually teenagers
This whole thing will be spun out of proportion though and made to sound as if he's this horribly bitter bloke with a contempt for the state of the film industry when he's, presumably, quite unbothered and happy with his success
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07-10-2019, 03:11 PM | #42 | |||
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07-10-2019, 03:11 PM | #43 | |||
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07-10-2019, 03:13 PM | #44 | |||
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Every time there's a movie that comes out now with some level of tokenism ("all black cast! first gay superhero! women produced/directed 85% of the movie!") there's usually a counter-movement from the anti-PC brigade that'll give it a 1/10 without even having seen the movie. The female remake of the Ghostbusters was the most notable recent example: it was a perfectly "fine" movie, nothing amazing but nothing terrible either, but meninists took it upon themselves to decry it as the worst thing since the Holocaust. Edit: even the films that most people agree are amazing/classics, you'll find a bunch of trolls giving it 1/10s to make sure its total score ends up falling below a movie they're trying to champion
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07-10-2019, 03:17 PM | #45 | |||
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...I don’t think he seems bitter or contemptuous in any way but I don’t agree with what he’s saying because the Marvel movies of today...as in recent years...are still an unknown in terms of their general value to the film industry...he’s generalising Marvel in a way that he wouldn’t want his own movies to be generalised...and he would have had to have watched every one as well, I wonder if he has because there is no analysis of the movies in any way...just sweeping statements... |
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07-10-2019, 03:23 PM | #46 | |||
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I still think it's the best rating system online for films. I've found it more helpful than Rotten Tomatoes in finding a film I like. Although the likely hood is that more guys use it more than girls, so guy type films will likely score higher. Last edited by Alf; 07-10-2019 at 03:23 PM. |
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07-10-2019, 03:24 PM | #47 | ||
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Hmm yeah, been ages since I watched Hancock, but from bits I remember, you are likely right
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07-10-2019, 03:29 PM | #48 | |||
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07-10-2019, 03:35 PM | #49 | ||
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...imed-at-women/
Hes probably right Seventy percent of IMDb TV show raters are men, according to my analysis, and that results in shows with predominantly female audiences getting screwed Just a blog really, but makes sense. Also makes sense that men deliberately sabotage films/shows that are 'aimed' at women. Though its surely pointless to be so spiteful..
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07-10-2019, 03:38 PM | #50 | ||
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IMDB is a terrible barometer to measure a film's worth since it's infested with trolls and the like. I remember reading yesterday about one film in particular on that website in which the top reviews were overtly racist and had statements like 'This film would be better if it had less *insert racial slur here*'.
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