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Kizzy · 13-10-2019, 04:57 PM

'Plans for a new purpose-built, 292-room hostel for homeless families in Haggerston have been given the go-ahead.

Blue Chip Trading Ltd and property developer Hezi Zakai will now get to work on building the hostel, which will be managed by the council and hold over 600 people once it is finished.

It will be fitted with workstations, a launderette, 24-hour security and free wi-fi.

Councillors and residents have spoken out against what the scheme represents, warning that while the building is classed as temporary accommodation, families' stays in the 20-square-metre units are likely to be anything but temporary.'

https://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/new...oved-1-6313821

arista · 13-10-2019, 05:01 PM

Its better than nothing

Kizzy · 13-10-2019, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Its better than nothing

Is it a workhouse?

arista · 13-10-2019, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is it a workhouse?

no

Marsh. · 13-10-2019, 05:08 PM

What is meant by "workstations"?

smudgie · 13-10-2019, 05:10 PM

I would think a workstation means the same as it does in houses.
A table/desk and a chair to sit on.

Kizzy · 13-10-2019, 05:16 PM

A table and a chair is not a workstation.. in a 20 metre room it would be a dining area surely?

Marsh. · 13-10-2019, 05:17 PM

There's no suggestion that they are working there though?

It's sheltered accommodation?

smudgie · 13-10-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

A table and a chair is not a workstation.. in a 20 metre room it would be a dining area surely?

It stated workstation.
If it double up as a dining table that’s even better. Enough room for one, two at a push.
Win win.

Cherie · 13-10-2019, 05:21 PM

I would imagine the workstations are for kids to do their homework etc

arista · 13-10-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I would imagine the workstations are for kids to do their homework etc

Yes
Common Sense

arista · 13-10-2019, 05:27 PM

Kizzy We have not gone that bad

Oliver_W · 13-10-2019, 05:41 PM

Haha oh come on, Kizzy's obviously kidding, no-one could possibly think that means it's a workhouse

Kizzy · 13-10-2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Kizzy We have not gone that bad

Arista there will be 292 families living in rooms 20 metre square many obviously won't even have a window...its bad enough.

arista · 13-10-2019, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Arista there will be 292 families living in rooms 20 metre square many obviously won't even have a window...its bad enough.

Yes but at least they have a home,

Years back , I have Stayed in Easy Hotels
with no window
saving money,
The TV takes over.

arista · 13-10-2019, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Haha oh come on, Kizzy's obviously kidding, no-one could possibly think that means it's a workhouse

No she is not kidding
and Kizzy does not Trust those in power
which is fair enough

Oliver_W · 13-10-2019, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

No she is not kidding
and Kizzy does not Trust those in power
which is fair enough

Not trusting those in power is one thing ... but unless she's been drinking lighter fluid, she doesn't actually think this is a workhouse

Alf · 13-10-2019, 06:07 PM

I'll tell you what is a workhouse. Me, I never bleedin' stop.

Cherie · 13-10-2019, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Arista there will be 292 families living in rooms 20 metre square many obviously won't even have a window...its bad enough.

Looking at the artists impression the building is covered with windows, obviously if the room doesn’t have a window thats not good, but with my limited knowledge it doesn’t look like it’s the case?

Kizzy · 13-10-2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Looking at the artists impression the building is covered with windows, obviously if the room doesn’t have a window thats not good, but with my limited knowledge it doesn’t look like it’s the case?

Of course the buidling has windows cherie... on the outside but will 292 rooms each have a window was my point. Obviously it's not going to be a solid concrete block like an NCP car park is it? :/

Tom4784 · 13-10-2019, 07:27 PM

I do fear we will end up sliding back to those days at the rate we're going but I wouldn't say this is a workhouse unless they are given labour to 'earn' their keep.

Oliver_W · 13-10-2019, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I do fear we will end up sliding back to those days at the rate we're going but I wouldn't say this is a workhouse unless they are given labour to 'earn' their keep.

For argument sake, I don't think that'd be awful if the place wasn't funded by the government and completely unattached to the welfare system.

Kizzy · 13-10-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

For argument sake, I don't think that'd be awful if the place wasn't funded by the government and completely unattached to the welfare system.

So you wouldn't mind if it was a workhouse then?

Cherie · 13-10-2019, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Of course the buidling has windows cherie... on the outside but will 292 rooms each have a window was my point. Obviously it's not going to be a solid concrete block like an NCP car park is it? :/

it depends how its laid out, we don't have a floor plan, so I can't say either way kizzy, can you?

Tom4784 · 13-10-2019, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

For argument sake, I don't think that'd be awful if the place wasn't funded by the government and completely unattached to the welfare system.

It's something that could work on paper but not in practice. There would always be abuse, especially if it was privately owned.

We only have to look how cruelly we treat people on benefits to see that a workhouse would go the same way as they did back then.

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