[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Heart breaking

It really is £30 grand to suffocate in a truck !! I can't begin to think about the the loss for all the familes, all we can hope is at least they are all going to be identified eventually - although families seem to be coming forward.

[UserSince2005]

the families are getting refunds from the smugglers it just said on the news. what the **** is this ****.

[Ammi]

...so now it’s believed that a number of the dead were from Vietnam, not China...


And VietHome, an organisation that represents the Vietnamese community in the UK said it had received photos of nearly 20 people reported missing, since the lorry was discovered.
The group said it began to receive reports of missing people on Wednesday. Those who have disappeared were aged between 15 and 45, it said.
The BBC spoke to the brother of Pham Thi Tra My, 26, who has not been heard from since she sent text messages on Tuesday saying she could not breathe.
"We are asking the British police to help investigate so that my sister can be returned to the family," he said.

[Cherie]

I read this morning that the text that was sent to the family was sent while the container was in Essex, if that's true, the guy who picked up the lorry must have inadvertently switched on the freezer or something

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I read this morning that the text that was sent to the family was sent while the container was in Essex, if that's true, the guy who picked up the lorry must have inadvertently switched on the freezer or something

Freezer to keep Veg or something fresh
yes - could be also automatic on.

Tragic.

[Strictly Jake]

So were their deaths intentional by the suspects? Also what were they planning on doing with these people?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

So were their deaths intentional by the suspects? Also what were they planning on doing with these people?

I dont think they were intentional but at the same time i dont think they cared what happened, its hard to prove they were being smuggled and who by, i guess they will swear by that they hide themselves their

[arista]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

So were their deaths intentional by the suspects? Also what were they planning on doing with these people?

No its a error.

These Asia Snakegangs
bring over somer workers for
Illegal Black market industry
and others may have had a UK location
to go to.

[arista]

A 5th Arrest
a Man in his 20's arrested in Dublin today

[Ammi]

Spoiler:

Anna Bui Thi Nhung, Nguyen Dinh Tu and Tra My, all from Vietnam, are believed to be among those in the lorry

[Jessica.]

So young. I have been thinking about these people a lot since this story came out.

[Denver]

This guy has been charged with 39 count of manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

So young. I have been thinking about these people a lot since this story came out.

..I know, it’s hard to not think about them, it’s so incredibly sad and so incredibly wrong...many were barely more than children with their families hopes of a new world and a new life for them.....

[Cherie]

There needs to be so much more education in these countries about what these young people are being sent to, more often than not it is not the land of milk and honey that is promised but a life of slavery or prostitution and to pay handsomely for the privilege just adds to the horror of it

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-chi...d-trafficking/

Traffickers often groom children, families and communities to gain their trust. They may also threaten families with violence or threats. Traffickers often promise children and families that they'll have a better future elsewhere.
Trafficking is also an economic crime. Traffickers may ask families for money for providing documents or transport and they'll make a profit from money a child "earns" through exploitation, forced labour or crime. They'll often be told this money is to pay off a debt they or their family "owe" to the traffickers.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There needs to be so much more education in these countries about what these young people are being sent to, more often than not it is not the land of milk and honey that is promised but a life of slavery or prostitution and to pay handsomely for the privilege just adds to the horror of it

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-chi...d-trafficking/

The problem is when you live in poverty and in desperate need for money or a better life it is easy to be sold a fake dream, people are gullible when at their most vulnerable and that's how the traffickers take advantage

[arista]

Yes Young
going for a new life in England
it must be terrible if any parents funded this illegal journey of death,

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

The problem is when you live in poverty and in desperate need for money or a better life it is easy to be sold a fake dream, people are gullible when at their most vulnerable and that's how the traffickers take advantage

Yes I appreciate that but that is where education comes in, I hope this case as it seems to be getting a lot of worldwide attention will highlight the issues that they are not coming to a better life, but probably worse that what they left behind

[arista]

Originally Posted by wickedskengman

this guy has been charged with 39 count of manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic

[Ammi]

Container deaths: Families say three lorries carrying more than 100 people were travelling to UK

The container in which 39 people were found dead was part of a convoy of three lorries, relatives of the suspected victims say.

They believe that over 100 migrants were being brought to the UK on the lorries.

Two of the vehicles are thought to have completed their trips but the third, which was carrying the deceased victims, was delayed at an unknown location.

The eventual destinations of the two other containers are not known.

Sky News cannot independently verify the accounts.

A priest in the town where many of the victims are thought to have come from also said he heard similar accounts from family members.

Father Anthony Dang Huu Nam, a Catholic priest from Vietnam's Nghe An province, said he was aware of more than 100 people who were travelling to "a new life".

"A few families confirmed the deaths of their relatives who are the victims of this tragic journey," he said.

The priest earlier said he believed most of the victims were from neighbouring impoverished provinces in Vietnam.



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/container-...130000211.html

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes I appreciate that but that is where education comes in, I hope this case as it seems to be getting a lot of worldwide attention will highlight the issues that they are not coming to a better life, but probably worse that what they left behind

But people in poverty dont get access to good education or sometimes education at all, education isnt a right in every country

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

But people in poverty dont get access to good education or sometimes education at all, education isnt a right in every country

okay Adam so we should just leave it at that? There are many ways of educating people outside of the school system you know!

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

okay Adam so we should just leave it at that? There are many ways of educating people outside of the school system you know!

Yes but you need money which some places dont have, not everyone has the same privileged lives of us in the west, they wont get easy access to internet, libraries, schools or whatever they need, some even live in remote villages where they have literally nothing ao to answer your question no it's not easy to educate the people on what is good or bad for them especially when someone is selling them the perfect dream.

It's time to take of the rose colour glasses and realise life is the same for people in the poorest parts of the world.

[arista]

Ch4HD News had a report from Vietnam
they are now very poor
it showed a ground map they fly via Moscow
through Poland and Germany
then France , then UK.

One Vietnam person
in a French camp would not show his face
he said he has been put on trucks to UK but
caught 3 times.
So he is still trying to break into UK,
They do not pay as much.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Yes but you need money which some places dont have, not everyone has the same privileged lives of us in the west, they wont get easy access to internet, libraries, schools or whatever they need, some even live in remote villages where they have literally nothing ao to answer your question no it's not easy to educate the people on what is good or bad for them especially when someone is selling them the perfect dream.

It's time to take of the rose colour glasses and realise life is the same for people in the poorest parts of the world.

I’ve no idea what point you are trying to make, they are getting the money to pay the traffickers yet you appear to be saying we shouldn’t bother even trying to get the message across as to what they are sending their family members to, and let them carry out as they were ...btw the traffikers are getting their message through so...

[parmnion]

I am assuming to myself that this is the work of either ex ira members or uda members, or any affiliated groups to neither side.

they will have moved on from importing drugs, seen the quicker buck in people trafficking and started making a kill years ago.

I doubt we will see a public enquiry into this tragedy as the names that may pop up shall be far to embarrassing for the uk.


hence the patsy we have....