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Marsh. · 15-12-2019, 04:03 PM

TS for new TiBB coder.

arista · 15-12-2019, 04:07 PM

Oliver_W · 15-12-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

But denying people a choice definitely is.

Honestly, any right wing/tory that's actively against an indyref for Scotland is an utter indefensible hypocrite given that they will bleat on about the importance of democracy when it comes to Brexit but they won't allow Scotland a chance to make their own decision regarding whether THEY want to exit the UK in light of everything.

Democracy is democracy. denying people the right to vote because you fear the result is the antithesis of democracy.

They've had their choice, and they decided to stay.

Even back then Brexit was on the horizon, I think everyone knew a Brexit ref was coming sooner rather than later, and you don't need tealeaves to know that the UK would vote to leave.

Nothing's come to light which couldn't have been predicted.

SherzyK · 15-12-2019, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

how do countries speak?

and how do you know what they say

Look at you getting all defensive. I said they “laughed”, nowhere did I say they spoke about it.

I’m sure you’re wise enough to understand what I meant by that

Twosugars · 15-12-2019, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They've had their choice, and they decided to stay.

Even back then Brexit was on the horizon, I think everyone knew a Brexit ref was coming sooner rather than later, and you don't need tealeaves to know that the UK would vote to leave.

Nothing's come to light which couldn't have been predicted.

That's simply untrue. Even Farage expected to lose the referendum.
You are rewriting the past but we dont have amnesia Oliver.

LeatherTrumpet · 15-12-2019, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Look at you getting all defensive. I said they “laughed”, nowhere did I say they spoke about it.

I’m sure you’re wise enough to understand what I meant by that

no because its a made up statement

laugh or speak its the same thing

Twosugars · 15-12-2019, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no because its a made up statement

laugh or speak its the same thing

It's not made up. Only trump, putin and the far right support brexit.

arista · 15-12-2019, 04:18 PM

RIP Change UK
and loads of LibDems

LibDems now only have 11MP's

SherzyK · 15-12-2019, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no because its a made up statement

laugh or speak its the same thing

It’s only a made-up statement because you choose to see it that way. Soon it will be you wishing the country took a different turn with brexit

Oh and they’re not the same thing. Try again

Tom4784 · 15-12-2019, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They've had their choice, and they decided to stay.

Even back then Brexit was on the horizon, I think everyone knew a Brexit ref was coming sooner rather than later, and you don't need tealeaves to know that the UK would vote to leave.

Nothing's come to light which couldn't have been predicted.

If you applied the same logic to Brexit then the 2016 vote wouldn't have happened.

It's hypocrisy, pure and simple. If the brexiters were in Scotland's position, they'd be demanding another referendum and would be throwing tantrums over it.

You are basically telling a whole country that didn't vote for Brexit or the current government that they have no stay and suffer with the rest of us and you're daring to defend brexit in the same breath like it's something completely different.

Utter hypocrisy.

LeatherTrumpet · 15-12-2019, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SherzyK

It’s only a made-up statement because you choose to see it that way. Soon it will be you wishing the country took a different turn with brexit

Oh and they’re not the same thing. Try again

"The other countries in Europe and around the world laugh at the UK"

Countries do not "laugh" and your post was made up to post something negative as you dont like the result of the election

own what you post

SherzyK · 15-12-2019, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"The other countries in Europe and around the world laugh at the UK"

Countries do not "laugh" and your post was made up to post something negative as you dont like the result of the election

own what you post

Do you know what a metaphor is? Or do you just choose to act like a petulant child and ignore it? I think the latter

LeatherTrumpet, you voted for SNP in the elections but your posts in this thread suggest otherwise. I sense some duplicity

arista · 15-12-2019, 04:29 PM

and

SherzyK · 15-12-2019, 04:29 PM

LeatherTrumpet, what’s the point in defending a cause you’re supposed to be against. Did you even watch the elections?

Twosugars · 15-12-2019, 04:41 PM

arista · 15-12-2019, 05:04 PM

Union Boss Len McCluskey
got it right he told them all not to
do another referendum.

Wise Man.

Twosugars · 15-12-2019, 05:06 PM

McCluskey needs to go, he is a dinosaur

arista · 15-12-2019, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars

McCluskey needs to go, he is a dinosaur

He is
going to stand down.

SherzyK · 15-12-2019, 05:20 PM

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9236181.html

Probably should of watched Sky in hindsight

LeatherTrumpet · 15-12-2019, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SherzyK

Do you know what a metaphor is? Or do you just choose to act like a petulant child and ignore it? I think the latter

LeatherTrumpet, you voted for SNP in the elections but your posts in this thread suggest otherwise. I sense some duplicity

Just don't make stuff up

SherzyK · 15-12-2019, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Just don't make stuff up

Nothing was made up, don’t let Boris cloud your judgement. Also...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I never did get an answer to this, LT.

Why defend the Tories and pretty much champion them if they oppose your supposed party's goals? Explain it to me. I'm gonna keep reminding you until you do, after all, I answered your question, I expect the same from you.

???

arista · 15-12-2019, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SherzyK

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9236181.html

Probably should of watched Sky in hindsight

No Ch4HD Alternate Election Night
was the best

jet · 15-12-2019, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy

A joke of an argument and the only one passing the buck here is you for blaming labour when the problem is that the public are wilfully ignorant of the facts.

Stop defending people's stupidity and being so obsessed with Corbyn that you'll probably continue to blame him for everything for years to come. The public made a decision based on ignorance, the public enabled what was going to happen to happen and the tory voters that allowed this to happen deserve every misery that's coming their way.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, you can't stop gullible people from wilfully disregarding the facts and believing a known conman over a truth they don't want to hear.

The fault lies in the public for voting for a party that has caused so much suffering for the past 9 years, that has let them down constantly and has installed a proven liar as their leader. The warning signs were all there, the facts were in plain view but the public didn't want to see it. They deserve all the suffering that's coming their way.

Stop defending the ignorant masses, all you are doing is trying to shield them from the consequences of their own actions. You can't blame Labour or Corbyn or anyone else for this, people voted for a majority Tory government. They voted for everything that's coming to them and I will never stop reminding people of that.

You made a choice, now you have to live with it.

I didn't make a choice, we have completely different parties in N.Ireland.

The public voted as they did because Corbyn and his hard left clique were seen as more disastrous for the country than Boris Johnson, and that's saying something. Take your blinkers off. The British public showed just how tuned - in and smart they were. They voted for Boris because they didn't want Corbyn.
But you think Corbyn is blameless and its all the fault of the ignorant masses.
Come on now.

And really, by the law of averages its impossible for everyone who voted the Tories, (including former Labour voters) and gave them a landslide victory to be gullible and stupid.

You always have to be right, anyone who doesn't have the same views as you is thick and ignorant. Closed mindedness is a bad debating trait.