[arista]

[arista]

[Livia]

Labour wouldn't dare....

[The Slim Reaper]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

Labour wouldn't dare....

The Leader wants it

[Kizzy]

Ah so that's the new ad campaign by dodgy and Co some will be spammed with on facebook thanks to even dodgier AI?
I can't see what's wrong with voting down a deal if it's bad personally. Since when did Labour MPs have to pander to boris?

[arista]

Corbyn Labour Leader
will agree to the Dec 12th Election
if Johnson stops No Deal
on Monday.

He was Live on ITV1HD this morning,

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Corbyn Labour Leader
will agree to the Dec 12th Election
if Johnson stops No Deal
on Monday.

He was Live on ITV1HD this morning,

Not likely though.

[arista]

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by arista

This is the real reason Labour don’t want an election.
Tories will lose a fair few seats where they voted against their constituency wishes
, but labour will lose droves.

[bitontheslide]

the EU are not going to give an extension date until next week, so there wont be any commitment to an election.

Also, if the EU don't give us the date requested then we have the right to contest it, so we could exit without a deal next week

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by smudgie

This is the real reason Labour don’t want an election.
Tories will lose a fair few seats where they voted against their constituency wishes
, but labour will lose droves.

Labour have said they'll vote for a general election as soon as no deal is off the table. I'm not aiming this at you in particular, but I don't know how this continual pretence that labour is avoiding it continues to be repeated.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the EU are not going to give an extension date until next week, so there wont be any commitment to an election

Yes the EU
are Wrong

Just say Jan 31st 2020

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the EU
are Wrong

Just say Jan 31st 2020

The Eu have been remarkably patient and tolerant of us as half of the country ignorantly slanders them on a daily basis. They have their procedures to go through too.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Labour have said they'll vote for a general election as soon as no deal is off the table. I'm not aiming this at you in particular, but I don't know how this continual pretence that labour is avoiding it continues to be repeated.

the labour leadership is split on a GE. Corbyn wants it, but the rest don't because of the current polls. No idea why anyone is placing any faith in polls though because at this point literally anything could happen if there were an election.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the labour leadership is split on a GE. Corbyn wants it, but the rest don't because of the current polls. No idea why anyone is placing any faith in polls though because at this point literally anything could happen if there were an election.

The numbers are there as soon as no deal is off the table, but agree about the polls.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the labour leadership is split on a GE. Corbyn wants it, but the rest don't because of the current polls. No idea why anyone is placing any faith in polls though because at this point literally anything could happen if there were an election.

Neh. Tory majority and Brexit party gains. Anything else is extremely improbable.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Labour have said they'll vote for a general election as soon as no deal is off the table. I'm not aiming this at you in particular, but I don't know how this continual pretence that labour is avoiding it continues to be repeated.

I can see your point.
But if we have an election then Labour plus other remainers could form a coalition perhaps.
Depending on if they get enough votes of course.
Something has to happen to sort this parliament out.

[Withano]

No party, including tories want the responsibility of Brexit in 1,5, or 10 years time.

Boris could have had his election months back if he made a simple promise but he’s Reyna be sneaky with it

[The Slim Reaper]

https://politics-punked.com/2019/10/...nny-foreigner/



By James Melville.

Where does all the hatred come from? Well, pop down to your local newsagents and you can buy some hatred on a daily basis.

Our tabloid media have for decades, focused their dog whistle xenophobic propaganda against the EU and immigrants. The European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) has previously criticised certain British media outlets, particularly tabloid newspapers, for “offensive, discriminatory and provocative terminology” against immigrants.

Sadly, it appears that many people have lost sight of the root cause of who to blame for a decline in wages, public services and the standard of living. Millions of people have been manipulated by politicians and media into mistakenly believing that their loss of hope was somehow the fault of the EU and immigrants. These messages have been hammered home by right-wing media outlets for over 20 years. And sadly, it has worked. Millions of people think that because of foreign incomers or foreign interference, they and their country have lost control. They have been told to take back control. There has been a huge diffusion from the usual suspects in politics and media to demonise the likes of the EU and immigrants to deflect from the failures of government. It is psychological projection. It is a gigantic con-trick. And tragically, it has worked.

The fake news scaremongering stories about the EU and immigrants can be traced back to a certain scruffy, wild haired, blonde, ex-Etonian who became a chief architect of Brexit and who unfathomably became our current Prime Minister. Boris Johnson may have thrown his weight behind the Leave campaign prior to the EU referendum in 2016, but his contribution to Brexit goes back more than two decades ago.

As a correspondent in Brussels for The Daily Telegraph in the early 1990s, Boris Johnson was a pioneer in cultivating disingenuous eurosceptic stories. With little regard for the truth, he wrote about the ‘unelected bureaucrats in Brussels’ scheming up directives to impose standard condom sizes and regulations on bendy bananas. He literally invented euro-bashing fake news. He turned fake news against the EU into a dark art form that is now used on a daily basis by many of our tabloids.

The EU referendum campaign itself, was a constant drip-feed of anti-EU and anti-immigration stories that were disingenuous at best and downright lying at worst, such as £350 million for the NHS and millions of Turkish people arriving in the UK. Our tabloids constantly screamed about immigration, with at least 30 negative front-page splashes in The Daily Mail in the six months leading up to the EU referendum, and 15 in The Sun. This was the real Project Fear.

The Sun, Daily Mail and Daily Express are united in their distrust and negativity towards the EU. To them, the EU exists to threaten the British way of life. Their messaging is a continued drip-feed of Britain as a plucky island nation separated physically and culturally from a ‘Johnny Foreigner’ Europe that threatens to dilute and destroy our proud traditions. For the tabloids, immigration and the opening up of our borders to Poles, Romanians and Bulgarians is simply a ruse designed by the EU to infiltrate and threaten British identity. This 20-year tabloid tactic of fear and loathing of foreigners is an appalling form of xenophobic propaganda that is based on lies, deceptions and playing upon misplaced identity insecurities. The messaging of Britain versus the outside world (in particular Europe); Britain standing alone; Britain having lost control of its borders; Britain winning wars in Europe – is an appalling con-trick designed to create xenophobic hatred and fear. It is gutter journalism of the lowest-common-denominator, where the perceived (but misplaced) fears about the loss of the nation’s independence and identity are projected onto blaming the EU and immigrants.

Britain should be looking outwards, but instead, certain sections of our media continually persist with trying to trap Britain into looking inwards. Until this cycle of fear is broken, Britain itself will remain broken and fearful.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Withano

No party, including tories want the responsibility of Brexit in 1,5, or 10 years time.

Boris could have had his election months back if he made a simple promise but he’s Reyna be sneaky with it

We are where we are
This is a Election
not Brexit

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

https://politics-punked.com/2019/10/...nny-foreigner/



By James Melville.

Where does all the hatred come from? Well, pop down to your local newsagents and you can buy some hatred on a daily basis.

Our tabloid media have for decades, focused their dog whistle xenophobic propaganda against the EU and immigrants. The European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) has previously criticised certain British media outlets, particularly tabloid newspapers, for “offensive, discriminatory and provocative terminology” against immigrants.

Sadly, it appears that many people have lost sight of the root cause of who to blame for a decline in wages, public services and the standard of living. Millions of people have been manipulated by politicians and media into mistakenly believing that their loss of hope was somehow the fault of the EU and immigrants. These messages have been hammered home by right-wing media outlets for over 20 years. And sadly, it has worked. Millions of people think that because of foreign incomers or foreign interference, they and their country have lost control. They have been told to take back control. There has been a huge diffusion from the usual suspects in politics and media to demonise the likes of the EU and immigrants to deflect from the failures of government. It is psychological projection. It is a gigantic con-trick. And tragically, it has worked.

The fake news scaremongering stories about the EU and immigrants can be traced back to a certain scruffy, wild haired, blonde, ex-Etonian who became a chief architect of Brexit and who unfathomably became our current Prime Minister. Boris Johnson may have thrown his weight behind the Leave campaign prior to the EU referendum in 2016, but his contribution to Brexit goes back more than two decades ago.

As a correspondent in Brussels for The Daily Telegraph in the early 1990s, Boris Johnson was a pioneer in cultivating disingenuous eurosceptic stories. With little regard for the truth, he wrote about the ‘unelected bureaucrats in Brussels’ scheming up directives to impose standard condom sizes and regulations on bendy bananas. He literally invented euro-bashing fake news. He turned fake news against the EU into a dark art form that is now used on a daily basis by many of our tabloids.

The EU referendum campaign itself, was a constant drip-feed of anti-EU and anti-immigration stories that were disingenuous at best and downright lying at worst, such as £350 million for the NHS and millions of Turkish people arriving in the UK. Our tabloids constantly screamed about immigration, with at least 30 negative front-page splashes in The Daily Mail in the six months leading up to the EU referendum, and 15 in The Sun. This was the real Project Fear.

The Sun, Daily Mail and Daily Express are united in their distrust and negativity towards the EU. To them, the EU exists to threaten the British way of life. Their messaging is a continued drip-feed of Britain as a plucky island nation separated physically and culturally from a ‘Johnny Foreigner’ Europe that threatens to dilute and destroy our proud traditions. For the tabloids, immigration and the opening up of our borders to Poles, Romanians and Bulgarians is simply a ruse designed by the EU to infiltrate and threaten British identity. This 20-year tabloid tactic of fear and loathing of foreigners is an appalling form of xenophobic propaganda that is based on lies, deceptions and playing upon misplaced identity insecurities. The messaging of Britain versus the outside world (in particular Europe); Britain standing alone; Britain having lost control of its borders; Britain winning wars in Europe – is an appalling con-trick designed to create xenophobic hatred and fear. It is gutter journalism of the lowest-common-denominator, where the perceived (but misplaced) fears about the loss of the nation’s independence and identity are projected onto blaming the EU and immigrants.

Britain should be looking outwards, but instead, certain sections of our media continually persist with trying to trap Britain into looking inwards. Until this cycle of fear is broken, Britain itself will remain broken and fearful.

Typical lie. Bc as it happened they integrated well and added another dimension to the already multicultural society. Not to mention excellent sausages in east European shops.