[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Like Cherie says, that's why it's the lawyer-talk line of "I have no recollection of meeting", not "I have never met". If or when evidence comes up that he HAS met the person in question, if he had said outright that he hasn't met her then that's revealed to be a flat out lie. If he simply says that he "doesn't recall" meeting her - then it can just be an "Oh, well I don't remember her".

There's a photo of them together.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

Literally couldn't believe what I was seeing/hearing in that interview.

Oh my God.

Yeah .... “ after he was convicted I decided to visit him in the US to tell him face to face that it would be wrong for us to be seen together ... we had that conversation in Central Park... and I stayed with him for 4 days ( maybe 6) ..”


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[jet]

A few things don't ring true...the girl says Andrew was drinking heavily and dancing when he is the known teetotaler of the royal family and it was always said in the past he doesn't dance because he couldn't dance to save his life...
Also he provided a alibi for a date she said he was with her - and he says he had taken his daughters on that date to a fast food place or something which he remembers vividly because it was the first time he had ever done that. Surely he wouldnt have said that in an interview to the nation if that was a lie and it came to court?

I'm veering more on his side right now, because there is no definate proof against him. Waving bye bye to a girl in a pic could just mean he met her socially - and pics are so easily doctored now too....he says Epstein was probably hiding his activities from him, as a member of the royal family..Makes more sense than Andrew haing sex with underage girls, why would he when he was the 'handsome one' who could have his pick? I remember just after his divorce from Fergie it was reported that he was too boring and too sensible and dutiful, while she was a free spirit - the reason they broke up - love that they still mean so much to each other and are still together though!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I don't think a young man in his teens/20s (Harry) doing what young single men do should in anyway be compared to a married man cheating on his wife and being extremely close with his paedo friend.

Umm...actually it was Fergie who cheated on Andrew (who was on board ship on naval duties at the time) with her 'financial advisior' (photos of her, topless, having her toes sucked by same in the tabloids, spelled the end of their marriage). This was well before the Andrew/Epstein thing....

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

There's a photo of them together.

Which proves what? That he must remember having intimate sex with her? Maybe she was just another someone he met casually among mutual friends taking the opportunity of having a photo op with a member of the royal family...and then the Epstein thing explodes....
I'd need more proof than a relaxed, happy looking photo op to say he took advantage of that underage girl against her will....
I hate this thing that men are accused and accusations against them are so readily believed without proof. I no longer give my daughters friends from uni who descend on this old fool after a night out a lift home if they need it...I call a taxi for them...and pay for it, may I add.... I used to escort them safely home, without a thought, and now I'm wouldn't even consider it because I'm afraid to. What a world, eh?

[bitontheslide]

there have been accusations about Andrew going back to when he was 18. Obviously none of us know for sure as we were not there. I can make a judgement on his character though, and I don't like him at all

[Ammi]

...it’s also trying to get that balance of thought between the ‘accused’ and the ‘accuser’...if there is truth, I cant imagine what it must feel like/how helpless it must all feel for anyone accusing him and knowing what their fight will be to be believed ...

[MTVN]

Disastrous". That's the Mail on Sunday's verdict on Prince Andrew's TV interview, which makes the front of several of the Sunday newspapers after airing on Saturday evening.

The paper attacks him for not showing any sympathy for Jeffrey Epstein's victims. "Not one single word of remorse" is its front page headline.

The Sunday Mirror says that any reasonable person would be ashamed of being friends with the billionaire sex offender.

But, according to the paper, the Duke of York spent more time dwelling on the misery the scandal had caused him.

The Sunday Times reports that one palace source described the interview as "one of the single worst PR moves in recent history".

The duke's spin doctor is said to have left his job two weeks ago after advising Prince Andrew not to appear on Newsnight.

The article also suggests that aides to the Queen and the Prince of Wales regarded the decision to go ahead with the interview with "incredulity and alarm".

So that went well

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Zizu

..... and he doesn’t recall showing her out of the front door and then peeping round very sheepishly


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That was a different girl I believe.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

He was nicknamed that because he, and his wife, shagged around a lot.

He was called that before he met her.

[bitontheslide]

who would choose to go and spend 4 days at someones apartment that they were going to break up a friendship with. It's obviously bollocks

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Who said it was an offence ... it’s just part of the context.. in his prime he could have any woman / girl he wanted ...


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Yet he settled for fergie.

[parmnion]

And I'm sure the fat freak was sweating during the royal it's a knock out.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

"I decided to visit him in the US to tell him face to face that it would be wrong for us to be seen together"

"... and I stayed with him for 4 days ( maybe 6) ..”

"BUT AFTER THIS WEEK never again you silly ol' pervert you."

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That was a different girl I believe.

Not according to that news report last night ... maybe someone else will know .

They showed ‘those two photos’ of the young girl then flicked back to interviewing her as an adult woman ..


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Which proves what? That he must remember having intimate sex with her? Maybe she was just another someone he met casually among mutual friends taking the opportunity of having a photo op with a member of the royal family...and then the Epstein thing explodes....
I'd need more proof than a relaxed, happy looking photo op to say he took advantage of that underage girl against her will....
I hate this thing that men are accused and accusations against them are so readily believed without proof. I no longer give my daughters friends from uni who descend on this old fool after a night out a lift home if they need it...I call a taxi for them...and pay for it, may I add.... I used to escort them safely home, without a thought, and now I'm wouldn't even consider it because I'm afraid to. What a world, eh?

I was responding to a poster who mentioned evidence they had MET.

Nobody mentioned sex so take your ridiculous rant to someone who gives a sh*t Jet.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Umm...actually it was Fergie who cheated on Andrew (who was on board ship on naval duties at the time) with her 'financial advisior' (photos of her, topless, having her toes sucked by same in the tabloids, spelled the end of their marriage). This was well before the Andrew/Epstein thing....

They both shagged about. Slut shaming the wife and defending the husband doesn't suit you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He was called that before he met her.

.... because he shagged around a lot. I don't recall suggesting he saved it solely for his marriage.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That was a different girl I believe.

And a Prince Andrew look-a-like!!

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And a Prince Andrew look-a-like!!

The girl in the picture of him sweating at the front door isn't the girl.making the accusations.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They both shagged about. Slut shaming the wife and defending the husband doesn't suit you.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Andrew 'shagged about' while married to Fergie, it was her infidelity that led to the end of the marriage. That isn't slut shaming, that is Fact.
You flippantly say otherwise, so maybe you could tell us what you think you know about his infidelities while married?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I was responding to a poster who mentioned evidence they had MET.

Nobody mentioned sex so take your ridiculous rant to someone who gives a sh*t Jet.

When you grow up, perhaps you'll look back to the the days when you thought you were being smart and cool and realize you were just being rude and nasty.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

When you grow up, perhaps you'll look back to the the days when you thought you were being smart and cool and realize you were just being rude and nasty.

Coming from the guy who can't understand a simple sentence.

If you study harder you may come out of school with some qualifications and improve on your reading comprehension.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

There is no evidence whatsoever that Andrew 'shagged about' while married to Fergie, it was her infidelity that led to the end of the marriage. That isn't slut shaming, that is Fact.
You flippantly say otherwise, so maybe you could tell us what you think you know about his infidelities while married?

Asking me to provide my knowledge whilst claiming to be all knowing about the situation yourself?

[Twosugars]

Queens former press secretary: If Prince Andrew thinks he's drawn a line in the sand over the Epstein saga, he's in cuckoo land