[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No, she didn't.

I never said she wanted the attention but to suggest she got as much sh*t from the public as Meghan and Harry have put up with is false.

Oh...she left because of the public...?

Well screw you Meghan.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Oh...she left because of the public...?

Well screw you Meghan.

Well, partly, yes. Having to ask the public to stop racially abusing his wife will have an effect.

[Mystic Mock]

Why was her cookbook being associated with terrorism?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Why was her cookbook being associated with terrorism?

Bigotry and racism

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You don't remember Diana. Why pretend?

You don't remember your own name. Put the drink down.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Bigotry and racism

Still that's a new one in the "how to be horrible about Meghan" list.

[arista]

[Ammi]

...Fergie and Diana were not abused in the same way because they weren’t subjected to racial abuse, so it wouldn’t have been possible for them to have been...racial abuse is entirely separate from scrutiny and other types of criticism, it’s very specific...it isn’t a ‘card’, it’s a fact of life for some...and it was something that Meghan was subjected to...I do though think that doesn’t mean, that all and any scrutiny and criticism was ‘because of her heritage’...so it’s separating those things...but racial abuse is an ‘add on/an extra’ that Meghan and Harry have had to endure, as well as the intense media scrutiny that Royals have and that others have similarly gone through...

[Volkanovski]

I think the problem is that Harry is a total idiot, and never makes a good decision.

[Livia]

Apart from the monkey picture in post one of this thread which finished Danny Baker... and the racist jewellery/Princess Michael of Kent story.... which is years old... what racist abuse has Meghan Markle encountered, I wonder. She's successful not because she's a particularly gifted actress but because she's great looking, she's privileged, she's been made a Duchess and she'll cling on to that even when Harry's history, she's married to a prince (right now).... what is it that upsetting her, exactly?

This reminds me of women who marry soldiers and policemen and then moan about their jobs.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Livia

Apart from the monkey picture in post one of this thread which finished Danny Baker... and the racist jewellery/Princess Michael of Kent story.... which is years old... what racist abuse has Meghan Markle encountered, I wonder. She's successful not because she's a particularly gifted actress but because she's great looking, she's privileged, she's been made a Duchess and she'll cling on to that even when Harry's history, she's married to a prince (right now).... what is it that upsetting her, exactly?

This reminds me of women who marry soldiers and policemen and then moan about their jobs.

Nobody come up with anything yet? Either put up proof or shut up, really.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

Nobody come up with anything yet? Either put up proof or shut up, really.

You can order people about at home if they let you, not here

[jet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You can order people about at home if they let you, not here

So you have nothing then?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Volkanovski

I think the problem is that Harry is a total idiot, and never makes a good decision.

He is learning Fast
Good he can Talk to Charles and the Queen
with Meghan in Canada,

[Ammi]

...I’m not sure what the ‘demand for proof’ when the palace statement that was issued in the early days of their relationship was specific about the racial undertones toward Meghan and some of her family ...that was before their engagement or marriage...there are many articles obviously...but this is quite an interesting one, which touches on the differences between reporting on her mum versus reporting on her dad...just a little bit from it...but the full article is there...




As a successful, mixed-race woman from California, Markle became the media’s new punchbag, and her family weren’t spared media intrusions either. The contrast in treatment towards each of her divorced parents, however, was glaring: dog-whistles for her black mother, and sympathy for her white father. In her time in the public eye, Markle’s mother Doria Ragland has been a picture of dignity, yet was still the constant victim of coded racism, in the form of inaccurate references to slavery and gang violence. Meghan’s father, Thomas Markle, was gifted a little more empathy by the tabloids, often portrayed as a lovable rogue disowned by his “heartless” daughter, even though he repeatedly betrayed and embarrassed her on the international stage. All the while, this racist and sensationalist reporting stoked tensions on social media, and bigots and trolls felt vindicated in their racism.

Reflecting on the unfortunate series of events that have unfolded around Markle, there is much we can learn about the current state of racism in this country.
Critics have argued that Markle knew what she was signing up for, and should have been more prepared. But the onus should not be on people of colour to swallow racism – an assertion rooted in victim-blaming culture: where the minority on the receiving end of abuse is supposed to rise above everything in order to maintain decorum, while the abusers are free to spew whatever they wish. After seeing what they had to say, I can’t help but wonder if Markle, a former successful actor who was largely palatable to an overwhelmingly white media, can be harassed into stepping away from the crown, then how might the public react to someone with less privilege than her?

It seems that much of Britain desperately wants to be absolved its racist history without doing any work to combat racism – treating marginalisation and discrimination like imagined annoyances not worth confronting. But looking at the fate of a royal couple that was supposed to symbolise progression and a supposedly “post-racial” British society, it seems clear that there is still much work to be done.



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eghan-tabloids



...anyways, there isn’t really anywhere else to go with this, other than in circles...so there isn’t much more to say...’racist undertones’ as the palace so royally put it......is something separate from other scrutinies/judgements/criticisms etc that others have gone through...it’s obviously inaccurate to think or say that everyone who has disapproved/disliked Meghan is racist or bigoted...but it’s equally inaccurate to think or say that racism/bigotry has not been a factor at all...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Nobody come up with anything yet? Either put up proof or shut up, really.

So you spend 2 pages explaining how you're not sharing your sources whilst telling other people to either provide them or shut up. Logical.

[Kazanne]

Are we allowed to say 'black' now ? blimey Tibb make your mind up, Their dilemma has very little to do with race , That card is rolled out everytime someone of colour loses a game or isn't liked for various other reasons, there is no need for it , it spoils every thread.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Are we allowed to say 'black' now ? blimey Tibb make your mind up, Their dilemma has very little to do with race , That card is rolled out everytime someone of colour loses a game or isn't liked for various other reasons, there is no need for it , it spoils every thread.

What are you on about? Who said you can't use the word "black"? You're moving the goalposts of the discussion.

The fact you find racism so trivial you think POC use it over losing a game is far more troubling.

[Liam-]

When have people not been allowed to say black?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What are you on about? Who said you can't use the word "black"? You're moving the goalposts of the discussion.

The fact you find racism so trivial you think POC use it over losing a game is far more troubling.

Ask one of the mods

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Ask one of the mods

Have you been infracted for saying "black" or something?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so is a black person the same as a POC and why is person of colour now ok but coloured person isnt?

All black people are POC. Not all POC are black, do you see the distinction?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Have you been infracted for saying "black" or something?

Yes,but will probably get another one now as we are not supposed to discuss infractions.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,but will probably get another one now as we are not supposed to discuss infractions.

I very much doubt you did Kazanne.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes,but will probably get another one now as we are not supposed to discuss infractions.

I'm sorry but I really need to clarify this. You were not infracted for using the word black and you know it because it's not the first time you've brought that infraction up. You were infracted because of the back handed "compliment" you were giving to that black man, it was really insulting and stereotyping other black people. Nothing to do with the word black itself