[Zizu]

Fingers crossed none of you guys get old .. eh


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Fingers crossed none of you guys get old .. eh


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I agree, so everyone will assume I have alzheimers just because I'm old!

[Zizu]

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[Marsh.]

I'll make it really simple for you...

Older people feeling less inhibited to say the offensive things on their mind does not make the offensive things on their mind any better.

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.

Kind of like excusing the rantings of a drunk person for being drunk. The alcohol didn't create the rantings, just made the person relaxed enough to verbalise them!

So google "old people say racist things" all you like!

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

When she grows up she’ll may be a little more tolerant towards the elderly .. they were born and raised in different times ..

A couple of my 80 year old neighbours occasionally say shockingly racist things just in general conversation but they’re still good people .. they just grew up in times of something like 95% white English communities ... times have changed so much , nowadays they see the terrible news stories like the sex rings in the north of England which always seem have a race element ...


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Originally Posted by Zizu

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Well, which is it?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'll make it really simple for you...

Older people feeling less inhibited to say the offensive things on their mind does not make the offensive things on their mind any better.

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.

Kind of like excusing the rantings of a drunk person for being drunk. The alcohol didn't create the rantings, just made the person relaxed enough to verbalise them!

So google "old people say racist things" all you like!

If we’re being honest .. you /we will all know people who occasionally ‘think’ racist things but never say anything ..


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[MB.]

again, you're all losing your panties over a lip sync

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Well, which is it?

It’s a bit of both ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'll make it really simple for you...

Older people feeling less inhibited to say the offensive things on their mind does not make the offensive things on their mind any better.

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.

Kind of like excusing the rantings of a drunk person for being drunk. The alcohol didn't create the rantings, just made the person relaxed enough to verbalise them!

So google "old people say racist things" all you like!

That’s a very blinkered approach to the issue .. but then again , you’re happy to condone the girl saying that the old dear deserved to die because of the things she said ... sooooo


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[Toy Soldier]

I mean...

1) This isn't the original video, it's a lip sync.

2) It's a "viral TikTok" and you can therefore be 90% sure it didn't literally happen. That's not to say it DOESN'T happen, but you can be pretty sure that this specific example is fiction.

3) One of the first things they say is "they were clearly mentally ill", and ignoring parts 1) and 2) and pretending that this IS a real thing... no, I don't think it's "funny" to talk about or encourange violence e.g. "punching a mentally ill person in the throat" for any reason, it's actually pretty grim. Mentally ill and learning disabled people say inappropriate and offensive things. No one has to accept it or like it but maybe not applaud aggressive language and assault .

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.

"Getting old" no but alzheimers and other dementia this is actually a gross over-simplification; they definitely CAN come along with a "tourettes-like" compulsion to say the most inappropriate thing. It doesn't mean that person was secretly racist when they were younger, it's literally a thought process of "what would be the worst thing someone could say right now" and that actually being verbalised.

Again, of course, none of this actually happened but I guess that's the problem. Fictional viral videos generating a tidal wave of un-nuanced outrage-opinion based on little to nothing at all and everyone feeding off each other to generate whole belief sets based on layperson opinion instead of actual knowledge and understanding. 2020 innit.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean...

1) This isn't the original video, it's a lip sync.

2) It's a "viral TikTok" and you can therefore be 90% sure it didn't literally happen. That's not to say it DOESN'T happen, but you can be pretty sure that this specific example is fiction.

3) One of the first things they say is "they were clearly mentally ill", and ignoring parts 1) and 2) and pretending that this IS a real thing... no, I don't think it's "funny" to talk about or encourange violence e.g. "punching a mentally ill person in the throat" for any reason, it's actually pretty grim. Mentally ill and learning disabled people say inappropriate and offensive things. No one has to accept it or like it but maybe not applaud aggressive language and assault .

Thank you . At last a measured , informed, mature response to a difficult subject


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Getting old" no but alzheimers and other dementia this is actually a gross over-simplification; they definitely CAN come along with a "tourettes-like" compulsion to say the most inappropriate thing. It doesn't mean that person was secretly racist when they were younger, it's literally a thought process of "what would be the worst thing someone could say right now" and that actually being verbalised.



Again, of course, none of this actually happened but I guess that's the problem. Fictional viral videos generating a tidal wave of un-nuanced outrage-opinion based on little to nothing at all and everyone feeding off each other to generate whole belief sets based on layperson opinion instead of actual knowledge and understanding. 2020 innit.

Thank the Lord you were passing by ..


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Getting old" no but alzheimers and other dementia this is actually a gross over-simplification; they definitely CAN come along with a "tourettes-like" compulsion to say the most inappropriate thing. It doesn't mean that person was secretly racist when they were younger, it's literally a thought process of "what would be the worst thing someone could say right now" and that actually being verbalised.

Again, of course, none of this actually happened but I guess that's the problem. Fictional viral videos generating a tidal wave of un-nuanced outrage-opinion based on little to nothing at all and everyone feeding off each other to generate whole belief sets based on layperson opinion instead of actual knowledge and understanding. 2020 innit.

Fair enough but far from the point Zizu was making.

Racism should not be toletated, no matter their age.

I imagine the tourettes-like older racists are a very slim number.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s a very blinkered approach to the issue .. but then again , you’re happy to condone the girl saying that the old dear deserved to die because of the things she said ... sooooo


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I'd like you to point out where I condoned any violence or said anyone "deserved to die".

What a stupid response. Don't invent things

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

If we’re being honest .. you /we will all know people who occasionally ‘think’ racist things but never say anything ..


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Not sure what point you're making. I'm sure we do know those people, racist thoughts are racist thoughts.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MB.

again, you're all losing your panties over a lip sync

Not really. The discussion became more general about the topic, not specific to the video.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not sure what point you're making. I'm sure we do know those people, racist thoughts are racist thoughts.

I’m getting tired of having to explain things over and over .. try figuring it out


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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m getting tired of having to explain things over and over .. try figuring it out


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You just accused me of wishing someone dead so, yeah, maybe explain better.

[Tom4784]

That's a lot of hoops to jump through to defend a racist.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'd like you to point out where I condoned any violence or said anyone "deserved to die".

What a stupid response. Don't invent things

You took the side of the girl...


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Fair enough but far from the point Zizu was making.



Racism should not be toletated, no matter their age.



I imagine the tourettes-like older racists are a very slim number.

You imagine lots of things though .. soooooo


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We should be tolerant of other people's intolerance!

That’s possibly the wisest thing you’ve ever said .. quit while you’re ahead .


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[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Zizu

That’s possibly the wisest thing you’ve ever said .. quit while you’re ahead .


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Would you suggest tolerating racist ideologies?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Would you suggest tolerating racist ideologies?

Why take everything out of context .. just to be provocative ?

I was just applauding the concept of us all being a little more tolerant of others ..


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