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Old 20-01-2020, 06:04 PM #51
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This is so silly, stereotypes are everywhere and they can also be the very reason why certain characters are funny in these shows. As far as I know Apu's character has never been portrayed in a way that actively/deliberately suppresses or makes a laughing stock out of South Asian people.

In this case, should we fire Dev off of Corrie too?
If the stereotypes are the very reason they're funny, then they are making a laughing stock out of them.

Also, Dev is not a stereotype so an odd comparison. He's also British with an English accent.
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I have always loved the character and I would fully support a switch to him being voiced by an Indian actor.
Then should groundskeeper Willie be voiced by a Scottish guy ? For the authenticity? .

Surely this must mean bumble Bee guy has to be voiced by a real Mexican guy ? And Doctor Nick "hi everybody" by a latino guy ? .

Anyway whatever , I never found Apu racist but good luck to whoever voices him .
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Then should groundskeeper Willie be voiced by a Scottish guy ? For the authenticity? .

Surely this must mean bumble Bee guy has to be voiced by a real Mexican guy ? And Doctor Nick "hi everybody" by a latino guy ? .

Anyway whatever , I never found Apu racist but good luck to whoever voices him .
But it doesn't matter since it's not mocking you. The people the stereotype is aimed at have taken issue, as is their right.
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Who? I've not heard of any. As much as I hate the term "SJW", it seems to be only white "SJWs" bitching about it.

There's nothing on their end to be offended about
So... you've not heard any so they don't exist?

And, Indian people have nothing to be offended about because white Oliver from England said there's nothing to be offended about? I think that's up to them to decide, you know, what offends them.

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And yet not one rang in this morning to any radio show that discussed this to complain, so as a snapshot of outrage, it feels like white saviour thing
Which radio show?
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So... you've not heard any so they don't exist?

And, Indian people have nothing to be offended about because white Oliver from England said there's nothing to be offended about? I think that's up to them to decide, you know, what offends them.



Which radio show?
i listened to LBC and no one phoned in offended

all the calls called it nonsense (a few were SE Asian)
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i listened to LBC and no one phoned in offended

all the calls called it nonsense (a few were SE Asian)
So, an English radio station?

Something tells me the producers weren't really making radical changes to a 30+ year old show based on the UK viewership.
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But it doesn't matter since it's not mocking you. The people the stereotype is aimed at have taken issue, as is their right.
Well some people are probably offended by Trisha the Japanese news reporter in Family guy ,or the black guy that shouts. But those seem perfectly fine as they get the pass as "satire adult humour" .

Like I said good luck to the new voice actor, I don't think Hank Azaria who btw voices Alot of diverse Simpsons characters ever meant to offend anyone . He's a talented actor.

Apu is a popular character, there's nothing demeaning about him .
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Apu is a popular character, there's nothing demeaning about him .
But, again, it's not demeaning to you as it's not aimed at you.
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Well some people are probably offended by Trisha the Japanese news reporter in Family guy ,or the black guy that shouts. But those seem perfectly fine as they get the pass as "satire adult humour"
Really? Have they bothered complaining?
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But, again, it's not demeaning to you as it's not aimed at you.
Please don't make assumptions Marsh as you don't know my background.

Family guy makes fun of everyone and it seems ok .
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Really? Have they bothered complaining?
Point I'm making is family guy amongst other TV shows are more of that risque humour , yet they seem fine as they get the " adult satire shield " to protect them
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Please don't make assumptions Marsh as you don't know my background.
So, suddenly you're Indian?
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Point I'm making is family guy amongst other TV shows are more of that risque humour , yet they seem fine as they get the " adult satire shield " to protect them
No, the point I'm making is have those offended groups complained?

If not, nothing is going to change.
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So, suddenly you're Indian?
forget it
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forget it
So no.
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No, the point I'm making is have those offended groups complained?

If not, nothing is going to change.
But those character stereotypes can still be seen as offensive , and TV shows like family doesn't give a damn .

The only time they've been in hot water is when they made risky Jokes about abortion ,self harm etc . But again it changed nothing. If anything they pushed boundaries more.
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So no.
Never said I was white which you obviously assume .
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But those character stereotypes can still be seen as offensive , and TV shows like family doesn't give a damn .
I never said they couldn't be offensive, I said have the people those stereotypes are aimed at took offence? If so, have they made their feelings known?

That's literally the only difference. The Simpsons are altering one of their characters due to a backlash from the people it is offending.
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Never said I was white which you obviously assume .
In what universe is "not Indian" white?
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In future I insist the character of Krusty is played by a Jewish actor.

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In future I insist the character of Krusty is played by a Jewish actor.

Sorry but Meghan is pencilled in for that part, you'll have to find your own Voice over work. x
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Sorry but Meghan is pencilled in for that part, you'll have to find your own Voice over work. x
A black woman playing a white Jew? I'll fight her...
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I guess the portrayal of a raspy voice Jewish messy clown is ok ?
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I guess the portrayal of a raspy voice Jewish messy clown is ok ?
As it's been stated to you multiple times by this point, Apu's voice will be changed because of a backlash from Indian people over the portrayal of Apu. If there's no real outrage from Jewish people then there's no reason to change Krusty.

I honestly don't really understand why you're so mad about this, it doesn't affect you at all.
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As it's been stated to you multiple times by this point, Apu's voice will be changed because of a backlash from Indian people over the portrayal of Apu. If there's no real outrage from Jewish people then there's no reason to change Krusty.

I honestly don't really understand why you're so mad about this, it doesn't affect you at all.
I never said i was "mad " about it i just don't think Apu is racist but whatever
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