[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are plenty Royals who manage to live pretty private lives and no one bothers with them because they don't keep popping up preaching what you should do and don't do, if Harry and Megs had done the same, they could disappear as well

The ones who can disappear, are..not so well known though.
Meghan and Harry attempting to get total privacy from the press..wouldn't even work if they moved to a deserted island. The drones would be following them snapping pics

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The ones who can disappear, are..not so well known though.
Meghan and Harry attempting to get total privacy from the press..wouldn't even work if they moved to a deserted island. The drones would be following them snapping pics

Why is it so hard for people to understand that

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Thats very true....but then it depends how much you choose to believe. Meghan is extremely theatrical in everything she does.

...but you weren’t familiar with her pregnancy pic and that it’s something that people can commonly do now, have that type of more personal pose...and you maybe thought that be an ‘extremely theatrical Meghan, type thing’ if you hadn’t seen anything similar before...but it’s actually just a commonplace thing that would probably not been thought anything of, had it not been Meghan and Harry and how they announced it...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The ones who can disappear, are..not so well known though.
Meghan and Harry attempting to get total privacy from the press..wouldn't even work if they moved to a deserted island. The drones would be following them snapping pics

They could easily, they were in Canada for six weeks and the press didn't touch them and no one was any the wiser, this was before it all blew up and they said they were leaving

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They could easily, they were in Canada for six weeks and the press didn't touch them and no one was any the wiser, this was before it all blew up and they said they were leaving

Yes that was before the media jumped on the bandwagon to bully them and now it's really impossible for them to have the privacy they want. It's not really that hard to understand tbh.

[LeatherTrumpet]

nothing says "we want privacy" more than a 90 minute cringe-fest with the queen of mawkish narcissism Oprah

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Samm, I’m coming up there to get the large picture/page stretcher police...don’t make me do that......

sorry babe xx

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Samm

Yeah maybe

Spoiler:

and the prize for the most tenous rebuttal goes to????

what is that meant to prove? Harry and Megs are not friends with Donnie

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yes that was before the media jumped on the bandwagon to bully them and now it's really impossible for them to have the privacy they want. It's not really that hard to understand tbh.

well no because they lost press protection and the Palace is letting them fend for themselves, you reap what you sow and all that

If they had gone about leaving in the right way in the first place instead of throwing toys out of prams it might all have been very different.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well no because they lost press protection and the Palace is letting them fend for themselves, you reap what you sow and all that

...this is kind of admitting that whatever they do, they cannot avoid press though?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No doubt she will...I couldnt give a damn about what she does with her hands. I want to listen to what she and Harry have to say.
I think its almost a little sad its come to this for Harry....A prince of the Realm appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show...but each to their own I guess.

Not sure its a good move as when Michael Jackson did his interview with Oprah ,people still believed all the gossip about him ,it didn't matter what HE said I think it just depends on the person on whether you like them or not to start with .Personally ,I don't really care what they do, but have to admit i find it strange they want to do this.

[LeatherTrumpet]

as Piers wrote:

"BREAKING: Harry & Meghan have announced they’re pregnant and released this cheesy photo of themselves to ensure the media gives the story about their private life more prominence - in their latest courageous effort to stop the same media focusing on their private life."

checkmate

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not shallow,because it was followed up

by save the planet Harry...don't fly peasants

then the announcement where they bypassed the Queen and posted their plans on Insta and the whole Sussex Brand thing

then the 'move' to Canada, and another move during first lockdown, if you are for all for the planet that much could you not have moved just the once

and a myriad of other hypocrital things they just keep on doing

There are plenty Royals who manage to live pretty private lives and no one bothers with them because they don't keep popping up preaching what you should do and don't do, if Harry and Megs had done the same, they could disappear as well

On the one hand you are saying watch Oprah so you get it from the horses mouth, on the other you are calling me shallow from watching and making a judgement from the horses mouth on the SA doc, make your mind up?


I know the narrative would be much easier to just call me a racist and be done with it but its not quite that simple

I wasn't calling you shallow, and I definitely had no intention of calling you a racist. I was saying that judging them (or me, or you, or anyone) on the basis of one interview is shallow, and I think that would be a pretty hard thing to argue against.


So to recap, the reasons you don't like them are

Bad interview
Instagram announcement
Showed concern for the environment but still fly themselves
Moved during lockdown
Myriad of unspecified other hypocritical acts
Other royals

I'm not trying to change your mind on them, you're an adult with enough upstairs to make your own decisions. I didn't reply to you, you decided to reply to me by inferring all these things about the intent of my post, when all I really said was if the forum is that invested in these 2, shouldn't the chance to see them in their own words be more useful than pretending some on here have an inside track to their innermost thoughts and desires (again, not you, but generally).

I'm just baffled if I'm honest, and my view is that most of the people arguing in these threads aren't arguing over evidence or facts, it's just become a way for a watered down tibb (compared to the old days), where people that don't really like each other have an excuse and a platform for an argument. Just talking in general terms here, and not about you or any other individual. I don't think they were always like this, i think that's just how the debate (I use that word extremely lightly) has evolved.

These threads are weird entertainment to me.

Personally, I think they're judged really harshly, and there are some definite racial undertones to the campaign against them. Not necessarily on here, but in the media, where most of the opinions on them are derived from, and the Meghan/Kate comparisons in the daily mail make this so blatantly obvious, that I'd actually like to see someone argue against that fact.

[LukeB]

I'm not surprised at people taking hypocrite Piers Morgan who is obsessed and an awful bully as gospel

[Tom4784]

Megan continues to live in Piers' mind rent free. He's so obsessed with her, it's pathetic.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Megan continues to live in Piers' mind rent free. He's so obsessed with her, it's pathetic.

And he has the cheek to call Meghan an hypocrite when he went abroad during christmas and he slated people for breaking rules.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LukeB

And he has the cheek to call Meghan an hypocrite when he went abroad during christmas when he slated people for breaking rules.

He's a repugnant hypocritical beast through and through.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LukeB

And he has the cheek to call Meghan an hypocrite when he went abroad during christmas when he slated people for breaking rules.

He will not stop.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Not sure its a good move as when Michael Jackson did his interview with Oprah ,people still believed all the gossip about him ,it didn't matter what HE said I think it just depends on the person on whether you like them or not to start with .Personally ,I don't really care what they do, but have to admit i find it strange they want to do this.

Michael Jackson was accused of being a paedophile though........bit of a difference there

[Tom4784]

Meghan being compared to someone accused of being a peadophile.... And people wonder why the couple don't want anything to do with the UK.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...but you weren’t familiar with her pregnancy pic and that it’s something that people can commonly do now, have that type of more personal pose...and you maybe thought that be an ‘extremely theatrical Meghan, type thing’ if you hadn’t seen anything similar before...but it’s actually just a commonplace thing that would probably not been thought anything of, had it not been Meghan and Harry and how they announced it...

Believe me I am not basing it on the pregnancy picture. Its the way she presents herself in interviews and these podcasts and the Documentry...I read the full context of her fathers letter...the way she told the world about her miscarriage...everything she does comes across as something out of a Barbra Cartland novel...its theatrical and dramatic just like the photo

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Believe me I am not basing it on the pregnancy picture. Its the way she presents herself in interviews and these podcasts and the Documentry...I read the full context of her fathers letter...the way she told the world about her miscarriage...everything she does comes across as something out of a Barbra Cartland novel...its theatrical and dramatic just like the photo

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Michael Jackson was accused of being a paedophile though........bit of a difference there

He was also found not guilty, all I am saying is what you touched on, people will just believe what they want depending on who they like and don't like.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Meghan being compared to someone accused of being a peadophile.... And people wonder why the couple don't want anything to do with the UK.

No one compared her ,can you read ? pfft

[Tom4784]

I just can't at judging someone as being 'theatrical' for coming telling people they've suffered a miscarriage....