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Old 28-10-2022, 11:02 PM #51
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I know. It's a shame he came out with that, and other shatee.

Well i take anyone at face value. He's a moron, i know. But he does have an interesting mind. He DOES make vaild points. He just lets himself down too much with outrageous nonsense.

He's obviously mentally ill too. But because he offended the left, they don't care. It's worrying.

Losing his mother, then marrying into Salem's Lot can't of helped him either.

Lets not forget what hes did 2006. He cares, he's just ill, and clumsy, and in need of stability.
You say 'interesting mind' ...but I wouldn't put it that way , however I do think he definitely needs help. And he should never have got involved with Trump and politics. He's clearly too thoughtless.Well can you blame people not taking him seriously,this is basically like if Charlie Sheen or Mel Gibson tried to jump on their platform screaming nonsense yet expecting people to listen ,we all know how insane they are .

For years Kanye had this weird attitude ... he loves controversy mixed with his bat sh1t behaviour.

When he got with Kim Kardashian , I'm surprised there was enough room for both their egos in that relationship. 2 self obsessed idiots.
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Kanye said "Black people being slaves for 400 years was their own choice" . And if he's associating with anti Semitic groups,then A. He also carries the same ignorant beliefs ,or B. He's too stupid and unstable to think for himself.

Do you still want to take on board the garbage that comes out his mouth?. we know he has bipolar ...but the level of arrogance & entitlement which he projects is ridiculous.
His views on slaves is a bit unique I'll admit that.

In fairness it doesn't mean that he can't be right on other issues, it just seems like I wouldn't agree with him on race related issues very often.
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I know. It's a shame he came out with that, and other shatee.

Well i take anyone at face value. He's a moron, i know. But he does have an interesting mind. He DOES make vaild points. He just lets himself down too much with outrageous nonsense.

He's obviously mentally ill too. But because he offended the left, they don't care. It's worrying.

Losing his mother, then marrying into Salem's Lot can't of helped him either.

Lets not forget what hes did 2006. He cares, he's just ill, and clumsy, and in need of stability.
If he genuinely is mentally ill then his family should be encouraging him to get help.

And not just the left tbf, I feel like society are very unforgiving nowadays to anyone who isn't perfect, unless you're insanely popular in your field.
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Kanye said "Black people being slaves for 400 years was their own choice" .
It obviously wasn't each individual slave's choice to be enslaved, but the slave trade was enabled by other black Africans, who would kidnap people and sell them on. A particular proponent of tbe thing was the Dahomey tribe, who reacted particularly negatively to slavery being abolished in the West.
(The people being glorified in The Woman King movie)

So while his phrasing was awful, whites are far from the only guilty party.
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Come on. Really? Do you call Cher or Madonna by their full names?

As stagenames go, Akala is fine. It obviously either comes from the Jungle Book, or Cub Scouts.
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[QUOTE=Oliver_W;11223322]It obviously wasn't each individual slave's choice to be enslaved, but the slave trade was enabled by other black Africans, who would kidnap people and sell them on. A particular proponent of tbe thing was the Dahomey tribe, who reacted particularly negatively to slavery being abolished in the West.
(The people being glorified in The Woman King movie)

So while his phrasing was awful, whites are far from the only guilty party.




But that's like saying " oh it wasn't all Hitler's fault" , utterly insensitive & mad.

Kanye was victim blaming . The slave trade may have been enabled,but what he said was ridiculous.
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But that's like saying " oh it wasn't all Hitler's fault" , utterly insensitive & mad.

Kanye was victim blaming . The slave trade may have been enabled,but what he said was ridiculous.
There was no "Hitler Figure" in the slave trade. It wasn’t just enabled by other Africans, it was actively driven by them. They're as to blame as the other participants.
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There was no "Hitler Figure" in the slave trade. It wasn’t just enabled by other Africans, it was actively driven by them. They're as to blame as the other participants.
That's not what he said ,and he plain blank ignored all the slaves who fought or who tried to fight back whilst dying.
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Lots of blacks being cancelled atm..Dion Dublins another...probably all the lefties getting more of a say these days that's causing that.
What did Dion do to get cancelled?
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It obviously wasn't each individual slave's choice to be enslaved, but the slave trade was enabled by other black Africans, who would kidnap people and sell them on. A particular proponent of tbe thing was the Dahomey tribe, who reacted particularly negatively to slavery being abolished in the West.
(The people being glorified in The Woman King movie)

So while his phrasing was awful, whites are far from the only guilty party.

Come on. Really? Do you call Cher or Madonna by their full names?

As stagenames go, Akala is fine. It obviously either comes from the Jungle Book, or Cub Scouts.
I literally worked out this morning its (Kan)Ye

he juist shortened his name like Ken or Rich
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you could call yourself ET which is remarkably appropriate
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He’s ill. That’s what’s going on with him.
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I thought it was well known that he is Bi-polar which explains gis erratic behaviour. It doesn't excuse anything he says but there is a medical diagnosis as to why he often behaves the way he does. If anyone has lived with someone with bi-polar knows, its exhausting and at times frigtening with the moods swings and behaviours
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I've been listening to his music for the past couple hours. He's a modern day musical genius.

Runaway, in particular, is just breathtaking, spine tingling.
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He’s a genius who people looking for celebrity-goss. need to stop hounding in live time when he’s like this. By all means gossip about the Kardashians but like Annie said Kanye hasn’t been well in a long time. He has the periodic lucidity to make very good points but until he’s sorted out I can’t be too critical of anything he says right now. The various swings of bipolar disorder can turn someone into a repulsive so-and-so but it’s mostly the acuity of the illness talking, not them.
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He’s a genius who people looking for celebrity-goss. need to stop hounding in live time when he’s like this. By all means gossip about the Kardashians but like Annie said Kanye hasn’t been well in a long time. He has the periodic lucidity to make very good points but until he’s sorted out I can’t be too critical of anything he says right now. The various swings of bipolar disorder can turn someone into a repulsive so-and-so but it’s mostly the acuity of the illness talking, not them.
I brought College Drop Out on the day of release. Just incredible talent. He's been in an awful family. Been cancelled, yet he needs help. The twitter left destroying him is disgusting imo!
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I brought College Drop Out on the day of release. Just incredible talent. He's been in an awful family. Been cancelled, yet he needs help. The twitter left destroying him is disgusting imo!
I actually still really like the Kardashians but that’s a story for another day, I guess.
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He’s a genius who people looking for celebrity-goss. need to stop hounding in live time when he’s like this. By all means gossip about the Kardashians but like Annie said Kanye hasn’t been well in a long time. He has the periodic lucidity to make very good points but until he’s sorted out I can’t be too critical of anything he says right now. The various swings of bipolar disorder can turn someone into a repulsive so-and-so but it’s mostly the acuity of the illness talking, not them.
You know things are crazy when Alex Jones almost looks like the sane one. That was a complete car crash.
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If he was white we would not be excusing him on health grounds

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I never wanna hear that story
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That's true too...
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If he was white we would not be excusing him on health grounds

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What a load of rubbish , you're not speaking for me ! . As I've been saying for years he was arrogant & obnoxious .

But it's more evident now that he's severely mentally unstable, and people need to stop giving him attention. And he either needs sectioning or something .
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"if he was white we would not be excusing him on health grounds"

"But it's more evident now that he's severely mentally unstable,"

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