[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by SantaslettertoMeghan

i think Chappelle's humour is much deeper than many of today's audience are capable of understanding. I'm sure the audience didn't used to be so thick

Agreed, I think he's taken at face value when what he's getting at is rarely that.

That comes with pitfalls from both sides; one that will think he's just being hateful and hate him from it, and another that will think he's just being hateful and celebrate him for it. Chappelle to his credit hasn't gone down the route of leaning into and actively pandering to those people like some other high profile examples (Jordan Peterson would be exhibit A for me).

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Christmas Lights

Also the people complaining about his comedy special,how many of them actually watched it ? .

This is a problem too of course - too many people making assessments based on 30 second TikTok clips rather than an hour long show in context.

That's a problem with... Pretty much everything at the moment let's face it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

This is a problem too of course - too many people making assessments based on 30 second TikTok clips rather than an hour long show in context.

That's a problem with... Pretty much everything at the moment let's face it.

It happens with youtube title videos aswell , people get outraged ...before actually watching the video they're supposedly upset about . It's like people automatically wait to be offended now .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

My honest thoughts on Chappelle and Gervais' specials... I think Chappelle has a lot to say in his and he does it well. I generally find that people take him too much at face value and miss the larger commentary being made. I don't agree with it word for word but I think it's a great piece of work.

Gervais' special I found lazy and low-hanging fruit. I don't think I admitted that at the time, maybe even to myself. Tribalism eh!

He has previous standup shows that are near-perfect which makes it especially glaring. It felt like an easy paycheque.

The thing about Gervais special was the stuff he was saying was all things that TRA's on Social Media say, the "HER PENIS" stuff etc.

I like Ricky Gervais and find him funny, not every one of his jokes, some are too far (for me) but surely that's always going to be the case with comedy, we all have the power to switch it off if we're not enjoying it anymore

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You can twist what I say all you like Slim . And as I said if you don't believe me about Chapelle's trans friend then do the research. She defended Chapelle and she got massive hate for it ,which led to her suicide.

So then, I turned into Qanon Alf - and did my own research I looked through a few different articles and stuff about this, and I found this link to have actually researched and looked at the actual facts/data of the whole event.

I'm not saying this is the absolute definitive way this played out, and if you find information that completely disproves what this person says, then I'm open to reading that, too.

Normally I would post the article into the site for everyone to read, but with this particular blog, there are tweets and pics that would need to be transferred over, and no way I'm doing that, so unfortunately it's just a link.

https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/p...y-best-friends

In the interests of good faith, I'm going to make a concession, not particularly about this story, but a general one. I've always been a skeptic when it came to twitter mobs and their existence, but I'm pretty confident in saying that they are a very real and frightening thing for many people, and just because I don't see them, it doesn't mean they don't exist. As an extremely wise man once wrote - we all have blind spots

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

It happens with youtube title videos aswell , people get outraged ...before actually watching the video they're supposedly upset about . It's like people automatically wait to be offended now .

For the last couple of years the YouTube comment section has been best ignored entirely, it's a complete dumpster fire ... I think half of the comments are bots as well (again, AI robots ... not the TiBB member, he doesn't have time).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

For the last couple of years the YouTube comment section has been best ignored entirely, it's a complete dumpster fire ... I think half of the comments are bots as well (again, AI robots ... not the TiBB member, he doesn't have time).

Youtube titles have gotten very annoying. I especially hate these ones :

-insert youtuber name- DESTROYS feminist/Woke Student etc etc
Customer is rude to waitress and you won't BELIEVE what happens next

[bitontheslide]

i've seen death threats made to content owners on youtube, and not on subjects that anyone could find offensive in any way. That doesn't strike me as normal

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The thing about Gervais special was the stuff he was saying was all things that TRA's on Social Media say, the "HER PENIS" stuff etc.

I like Ricky Gervais and find him funny, not every one of his jokes, some are too far (for me) but surely that's always going to be the case with comedy, we all have the power to switch it off if we're not enjoying it anymore

It's not that all of the commentary was bad, I think the one you mention was especially apt, pointing out the inherent irony of that line of ... resistence? "Stop saying offensive things you TERF wh ore!!" etc. ... you see this sort of thing on Twitter constantly.

It's something that's plagued TiBB from time to time as well. But doesn't it just unfortunately sum up the impasse of social media discourse in general. "Stop saying things that I find offensive, you disgusting piece of ****!"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's not that all of the commentary was bad, I think the one you mention was especially apt, pointing out the inherent irony of that line of ... resistence? "Stop saying offensive things you TERF wh ore!!" etc. ... you see this sort of thing on Twitter constantly.

It's something that's plagued TiBB from time to time as well. But doesn't it just unfortunately sum up the impasse of social media discourse in general. "Stop saying things that I find offensive, you disgusting piece of ****!"

Yeah, absolutely spot on. It feels a bit like we're all losing the ability to communicate properly (and constructively) with each other. It's sad to see

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i've seen death threats made to content owners on youtube, and not on subjects that anyone could find offensive in any way. That doesn't strike me as normal

My wife's had a threat of violence or two over peer-reviewed research that's been through multiple layers of University ethics . People are wonderful creatures.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah, absolutely spot on. It feels a bit like we're all losing the ability to communicate properly (and constructively) with each other. It's sad to see

Unfortunately now it's just insults thrown at people rather than discussion. JK Rowling is proof of that ,the food of hate she got ....was like a unhealthy cult.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

So then, I turned into Qanon Alf - and did my own research I looked through a few different articles and stuff about this, and I found this link to have actually researched and looked at the actual facts/data of the whole event.

I'm not saying this is the absolute definitive way this played out, and if you find information that completely disproves what this person says, then I'm open to reading that, too.

Normally I would post the article into the site for everyone to read, but with this particular blog, there are tweets and pics that would need to be transferred over, and no way I'm doing that, so unfortunately it's just a link.

https://michaelhobbes.substack.com/p...y-best-friends

In the interests of good faith, I'm going to make a concession, not particularly about this story, but a general one. I've always been a skeptic when it came to twitter mobs and their existence, but I'm pretty confident in saying that they are a very real and frightening thing for many people, and just because I don't see them, it doesn't mean they don't exist. As an extremely wise man once wrote - we all have blind spots

I know this has nothing to do with your sig,but why are you still using it when a moderator told you the twitter account is 'fake' . Oh the irony of you not wanting misinformation out there .

Chapelle's friend Daphne , possibly had other mental health issues. But the point is getting a wave of hate .... Would not have helped . Especially if she was struggling already .

You can talk blind spots and this and that ,but we all know how these mobs work ... it's like a cult following .

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'd also add that if one of them was non-white or if the teacher was black but played the exact same, it would be exactly the same show, so long as there was no awkward Netflix-style shoe horning.

That said I doubt anyone could play the teacher quite the same as Greg Davies, but that's really unrelated.

Lenny would pull it off.

[parmnion]

The only thing that needs cancelling is the internet.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I know this has nothing to do with your sig,but why are you still using it when a moderator told you the twitter account is 'fake' . Oh the irony of you not wanting misinformation out there .

Chapelle's friend Daphne , possibly had other mental health issues. But the point is getting a wave of hate .... Would not have helped . Especially if she was struggling already .

You can talk blind spots and this and that ,but we all know how these mobs work ... it's like a cult following .

You're wrong about the sig, but I'm sure Niamh will appreciate your concern.


The blog researches the hate, and found out that she received only a few comments at all, and they were mainly positive, so there was, based on the evidence, absolutely no mob at all.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You're wrong about the sig, but I'm sure Niamh will appreciate your concern.


The blog researches the hate, and found out that she received only a few comments at all, and they were mainly positive, so there was, based on the evidence, absolutely no mob at all.

How can you say 'no mob at all ' , when you know what a cess pit twitter and other social media platforms can be .

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

How can you say 'no mob at all ' , when you know what a cess pit twitter and other social media platforms can be .

You have access to the same blog that I used - did you not read it?

The guy trawled through her Sm pages and most of her comments were positive, he even checked her page on redditt, and the comments there were also mostly positive.

Her lifelong friends said that she was struggling with serious mental health issues and had recently had a child removed from them. It's a tragic story, but I think that DC may have (I'm being kind) overplayed the abuse, but like I say, and I mean this, if you find something to counter that, that shows this guy was the biased one who lied, then I'm open to looking at the facts.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by James

Inbetweeners is one of my favourites. When I saw this headline I looked up the cast and found the Simon and Will actors are 39 and 38 years old now.

I saw an advert for something or other on C4, it took ages to work out who the elderly man was

[Alf]

Has anyone seen the sitcom "White Gold" which has both Joe Thomas and James Buckley in it? It also has Rachel Shenton in it who played Mitzeee in Hollyoaks.

I just want to know if anyone watched it and is it worth watching?

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Has anyone seen the sitcom "White Gold" which has both Joe Thomas and James Buckley in it? It also has Rachel Shenton in it who played Mitzeee in Hollyoaks.

I just want to know if anyone watched it and is it worth watching?

Its watchable but nit that funny. The first season anyway, I didn't continue with it. Simon and Jay are literally just Simon and Jay selling double glazing. Exactly the same characters.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Its watchable but nit that funny. The first season anyway, I didn't continue with it. Simon and Jay are literally just Simon and Jay selling double glazing. Exactly the same characters.

yes and its worth watching

its not golden but its better than a lot of sh1t

[Alf]

I'll give it a try then. As a connoisseur of the British sitcom, I'm desperate for something new that is watchable. It's extremely rare to find one these days.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'll give it a try then. As a connoisseur of the British sitcom, I'm desperate for something new that is watchable. It's extremely rare to find one these days.

Not British, but did you ever watch parks and rec? Seems like something that you wouldn't have wanted to watch, but you should give it a try if you didn't.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not British, but did you ever watch parks and rec? Seems like something that you wouldn't have wanted to watch, but you should give it a try if you didn't.

It has a good rating of 8.6 on Imdb. But for some reason I just can't do American sitcoms. I could when I was younger. I grew up watching The Munsters, The Golden Girls and Married with children and others. But having delved into the Golden age of British sitcoms, the American stuff just doesn't do it for me now, infact I stopped trying years ago.