[LeatherTrumpet]

'I was sexually assaulted by paedo-trans rapist in women's jail': Female
prisoner tells of ordeal at the hands of notorious predator Karen White who
molested four inmates in three months

• A female inmate has told of sex attack at the hands of a notorious trans rapist
• Laura Goldsmith warned about risks of male-bodied prisoners in women's jails

A female prisoner today warns of the dangers of putting transgender inmates
in women's jails after she was sexually assaulted by a paedophile rapist
behind bars.

Laura Goldsmith, 38, revealed how she fell prey to notorious sex offender
Karen White in HMP New Hall in Wakefield, West Yorkshire.


In chilling echoes of the shocking case of transgender double rapist Isla
Bryson being placed in an all-female jail in Scotland, Laura told how White
was allowed to carry out a campaign of abuse in plain sight after being
placed in the jail despite not having surgery and boasted how she was not
having hormone treatment.


White was a convicted paedophile and serial sex offender on remand for
grievous bodily harm.

White went on to be jailed for life after sexually assaulting two inmates at
New Hall.

They are either doing it because they are scared of men's prisons or because
it gives them the opportunity to satisfy their perversions.

'There are men trying to abuse the system and they are being allowed to do
so.

'Women are being put at risk by the system placing predatory men in their
prisons. There needs to be a lot more vetting.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-inmates.html


'You shouldn't be put in harm's way inside a prison. This should never be allowed to happen again.'

[Oliver_W]

They must be mistaken because that sort of thing never happens

[bitontheslide]

Sorry to hear that LT

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Sorry to hear that LT

It wont happen on Kate Forbes watch

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

They must be mistaken because that sort of thing never happens

Makes shocking reading ~ all the people who could have stopped this from happening should be sueable , for their stupid inane decisions.

[Mystic Mock]

Paedophiles that have actually molested kids need to stay rotting in Prison, and tbh maybe even isolated from the other inmates.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Paedophiles that have actually molested kids need to stay rotting in Prison, and tbh maybe even isolated from the other inmates.

Why even pay to let them rot ..


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why even pay to let them rot ..


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I like you're thinking, but unfortunately it's against the law for Paedophiles to be killed.

And logically thinking, if Paedophiles could receive the death penalty, what's to stop them from killing their victims? As after all it stops anyone from knowing who they really are, and from also getting murdered by our justice system.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I like you're thinking, but unfortunately it's against the law for Paedophiles to be killed.

And logically thinking, if Paedophiles could receive the death penalty, what's to stop them from killing their victims? As after all it stops anyone from knowing who they really are, and from also getting murdered by our justice system.

Plus it wouldn't just be guilty paedophiles , it would be Jeff who lives down the road who people suspect is a "creepy loner" . But no actual evidence of him being a paedophile other than that.

Any time death penality is brought into action ,you will always get innocent people accused or wrongly arrested.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

It wont happen on Kate Forbes watch

Good on Kate

[Livia]

Hopefully someone will cut his cock off and let him bleed out.

Where are the Human Rights lawyers for women in prison? They're all working for migrants.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I like you're thinking, but unfortunately it's against the law for Paedophiles to be killed.

And logically thinking, if Paedophiles could receive the death penalty, what's to stop them from killing their victims? As after all it stops anyone from knowing who they really are, and from also getting murdered by our justice system.

This is some of the logic behind giving lighter sentences for any crime that didn't end in someone's death... if you make the punishment for the crime as severe as the punishment for murder, then you MASSIVELY increase the risk that someone committing an assault will end it with killing and hiding the victim, because from their perspective there's no reason not to and they're far less likely to be caught if there's no live victim to report the crime.

[parmnion]

The mental thing is they could actually end up in the same prison as the person they abused or raped if what they did to that person causes them to turn to a life if crime.

[Cherie]

I have posted this link a few times now

It is lawful for transgender women to be housed in female jails in England and Wales, the High Court has ruled.

A female prisoner, known as FDJ, had challenged the Ministry of Justice over aspects of the policy.

She claimed she had been sexually assaulted by a trans prisoner but the MoJ did not say whether it accepted this alleged incident had taken place.

The judge ruled barring all trans women from female prisons would ignore their right to live as their chosen gender.

Women's prisons can house inmates who were born male but identify as female, regardless of whether they have gone through any physical transformation or have obtained a gender recognition certificate.

The MoJ argued the policy pursued a legitimate aim, including "facilitating the rights of transgender people to live in and as their acquired gender (and) protecting transgender people's mental and physical health".

The claimant in the case, FDJ, had said she was sexually assaulted in prison in 2017 by a trans woman with a gender recognition certificate (GRC), who had convictions for serious sexual offences.

The claimant's lawyers argued that placing transgender women in the female prisons exposed others to higher risk, citing a claim that transgender inmates were five times more likely than non-transgender prisoners to commit a sexual assault on a non-transgender prisoner.


The case was heard at the High Court in March
In a judgement handed down via email, Lord Justice Holroyde accepted the statistical evidence showed the proportion of trans prisoners convicted of sexual offences was "substantially higher" than for non-transgender men and women prisoners

But he said the lawyers' claims about the risk of sexual assault were a "misuse of the statistics, which... are so low in number, and so lacking in detail, that they are an unsafe basis for general conclusions".

Between 2016 and 2019, 97 sexual assaults were recorded in women's prisons, the judgement said. Of these, it appears that seven were committed by transgender prisoners without a GRC. It is not known whether any were committed by transgender women with a GRC.

As of March 2019, there were 34 transgender women without GRCs allocated to a woman's prison. The number of transgender prisoners with a certificate is thought to be in single-figures across the prison population as a whole.

The judge said he "fully understood" the concerns of FDJ, and that women prisoners "may suffer fear and acute anxiety" if housed with a transgender woman who has male genitalia.

But he added that the rights of transgender women prisoners must also be considered.

"The unconditional introduction of a transgender woman into the general population of a women's prison carries a statistically greater risk of sexual assault upon non-transgender prisoners than would be the case if a non-transgender woman were introduced.

"However, the policies require a careful, case by case assessment of the risks and of the ways in which the risks should be managed," he said.

"Properly applied, that assessment has the result that non-transgender prisoners only have contact with transgender prisoners when it is safe for them to do so."

The claimant, FDJ, said she was "disappointed" with the judgement.

"By bringing this challenge, I did not seek to prevent trans women in prison from living in dignity, or to exclude all trans women from women's prisons. However, I feel that trans women who have a history of violence and sexual offending against women should not be in a situation where they can put our safety at risk."

A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said: "We are pleased the court agrees that the way we manage transgender offenders strikes the right balance between protecting their legal rights and ensuring the safety of all prisoners."



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57692993

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Plus it wouldn't just be guilty paedophiles , it would be Jeff who lives down the road who people suspect is a "creepy loner" . But no actual evidence of him being a paedophile other than that.

Any time death penality is brought into action ,you will always get innocent people accused or wrongly arrested.

Oh innocent people could definitely get caught in the crossfire sadly in a system like that.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

This is some of the logic behind giving lighter sentences for any crime that didn't end in someone's death... if you make the punishment for the crime as severe as the punishment for murder, then you MASSIVELY increase the risk that someone committing an assault will end it with killing and hiding the victim, because from their perspective there's no reason not to and they're far less likely to be caught if there's no live victim to report the crime.

I do think the risk needs to be taken when it's Paedophilia imo.

If the Paedophile has already molested a child they're a danger to children, and if they only serve a 3 year prison sentence, yes the child that was molested will probably have been spared death by the Paedophile, but in 3 years time the Paedophile can just go around and molest more kids and even improve their craft from the time that they got caught.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I do think the risk needs to be taken when it's Paedophilia imo.

If the Paedophile has already molested a child they're a danger to children, and if they only serve a 3 year prison sentence, yes the child that was molested will probably have been spared death by the Paedophile, but in 3 years time the Paedophile can just go around and molest more kids and even improve their craft from the time that they got caught.

That's a matter of the justice system giving strong sentences, I'll never understand why the heinous crimes like murder & rape & child abuse get lenient time . They should throw the damn key away! .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's a matter of the justice system giving strong sentences, I'll never understand why the heinous crimes like murder & rape & child abuse get lenient time . They should throw the damn key away! .

I agree with you.

And preferably cases like Boris Becker being given Community Service.