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30-04-2023, 09:55 PM | #26 | |||
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30-04-2023, 10:11 PM | #27 | |||
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01-05-2023, 10:18 PM | #28 | |||
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01-05-2023, 10:19 PM | #29 | |||
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02-05-2023, 01:34 PM | #30 | |||
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[More than a million NHS staff in England
are to get a 5% pay rise after health unions backed the deal. Staff including ambulance workers, nurses, physios and porters will also get a one-off sum of at least £1,655. The pay deal was signed off at a meeting between the government and 14 health unions representing all NHS staff apart from doctors and dentists. Ministers said it was time to bring the strikes to an end, but three unions are still threatening to continue action. However, only one - Unite - currently has a strike mandate and that is for local strikes in some ambulance services and a few hospitals. Unison head of health Sara Gorton, who chairs the joint NHS union group, said: "NHS workers will now want the pay rise they've voted to accept.] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65458663 |
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02-05-2023, 11:03 PM | #31 | |||
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All that heartache and struggle to settle for just 5% ?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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03-05-2023, 08:55 AM | #32 | |||
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Basically it means that RCN members will get what's on the table now but have NOT agreed that they won't carry out further strikes throughout 2023 and into 2024. |
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03-05-2023, 09:03 AM | #33 | |||
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They've lost my respect completely. They said they had special arrangements at Great Ormond St. Big fricking deal... What about all the other kids in hospital all over the country. They are a disgrace.
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03-05-2023, 09:07 AM | #34 | |||
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There's already a staffing crisis. The nurses who are voting to strike know that it's only going to continue getting worse, to the point of no return. What is this world you live in, where people will just continue to work in healthcare out of the goodness of their own hearts, for peanuts? You wouldn't expect it of yourself but you expect it of nurses ... maybe if you clap on the doorstep loudly enough they'll listen. |
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03-05-2023, 09:29 AM | #35 | |||
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03-05-2023, 09:31 AM | #36 | |||
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Isn't the deal they are accepting now what they were offered last time and rejected....?
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03-05-2023, 09:35 AM | #37 | ||
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Strong post Soldier Boy. I agree with all of it. |
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03-05-2023, 09:38 AM | #38 | |||
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It's complicated because there were so many unions involved in the initial strike action. |
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03-05-2023, 09:39 AM | #39 | |||
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Then you can go and work in the kids hospitals and they'll have two more staff . |
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03-05-2023, 09:43 AM | #40 | |||
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My Dad was a paramedic, you don't go into these jobs for the money and I'm proud to say he never joined a picket line. |
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03-05-2023, 09:45 AM | #41 | |||
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Yes But the Unite and RCN will not accept 5% and the one-off payment. They want 10% Last edited by arista; 03-05-2023 at 09:47 AM. |
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03-05-2023, 09:46 AM | #42 | |||
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And a one-off payment.
But 2 Unions will not accept it Last edited by arista; 03-05-2023 at 09:46 AM. |
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03-05-2023, 09:46 AM | #43 | |||
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It's nonsense to think that healthcare worker should be uncomplaining martyrs and continue in the job year after year for below-inflation (or just zero) pay rise. It's not sustainable. No one should want to be a nurse right now, and not enough people do. That's the whole point. It's not "about the money" but no one wants to be in a career where they're undervalued and disrespected and so the health service is losing staff, fast. There's no two ways about it. You either have staff striking now and the government finally give fair pay and conditions, or you have gaping holes in staffing in 10 years time that there is NO ONE to fill.
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03-05-2023, 10:06 AM | #44 | |||
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The back drop to all of this is that people are just pissed off now more than they have been in years and that ultimately is why there are strikes. Demanding more pay is just frustration coming through.
We all know the NHS has been underfunded for years, but when a tax rise was implemented to try and raise some additional funding, people were outraged and Liz Truss cancelled it. So people want nhs staff to be better paid, but they dont want to be the ones that have to fund it. That's the reality, and it isn't going to change |
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03-05-2023, 10:13 AM | #45 | |||
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03-05-2023, 10:30 AM | #46 | |||
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They'll be inundated with applications! |
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03-05-2023, 01:30 PM | #47 | |||
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03-05-2023, 02:15 PM | #48 | |||
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And ... it is next to minimum wage. In England starting salary is £27k. A new start at McDonald's is currently on around £23k (full time). A job that requires zero training, zero experience, and has zero responsibility beyond not burning the chips. You genuinely believe that £27 - £30k is fair pay for people who literally have lives in their hands? It's utter madness. The pay doesn't just need to be better, it needs completely turned on its head and restructured to reward and encourage experienced staff. |
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