[Oliver_W]

When a nomination/eviction/immunity twist comes in, it depends on how much the beholder likes the HM on whether or not it's a fix to keep them in

But to avoid accusations, do you think a list of upcoming twists should be released, but not officially announced for those who want to be surprised, for transparency?

[Niamh.]

I think so, i hate over manipulation

[Cal.]

I would like them announced before that week’s nominations take place.

C5 BB (and even late C4 BB in some instances)‘s manipulation was so obvious at times that it ruined the enjoyment of the show.

I understand them wanting to keep good housemates in over bad ones but it should be a fair format and seen through regardless of the results of the nominations.

[Cal.]

I don’t mind the odd twist to manipulate the series but I’d rather it announced ahead of time rather than once nominations have been done. Eg. At the end of the eviction show on a Friday AJ and Will announce the following weeks twist even though noms won’t take place for a few days yet.

[BBDodge]

If the twist is announced after the nominations then it's a fix.

[Cherie]

Difficult one, the GBP love to get a villian out, thats great but then it can impact the rest of the series if there is no one to fill the void

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cal.

I don’t mind the odd twist to manipulate the series but I’d rather it announced ahead of time rather than once nominations have been done. Eg. At the end of the eviction show on a Friday AJ and Will announce the following weeks twist even though noms won’t take place for a few days yet.

Yeah that's a fair way around it.

Even if the producers are doing it because they can see certain nominations coming, announcing a twist before the noms happen does stink a whole lot less.

[arista]

Yes give a week
to vote

[Beastie]

I love the odd week when EVERYONE is up for eviction.

[BBDodge]

Originally Posted by Beastie

I love the odd week when EVERYONE is up for eviction.

That's how we lost Nikki in BB7 (though it was all up except the offender Jayne).

[Vanessa]

Yes, we should know about them.
But not too many twists.

[Soldier Boy]

I honestly think the thing that would solve most of the problems is having no head-to-heads. Minimum 3 (or even 4) in every vote makes vote manipulation much harder, twists or no twists.

Also vote to save over vote to evict. Frustrating as it can be ... it ultimately always makes for a more entertaining show, and culls some of the boring characters earlier. You need a good "mix" with some slightly bland ones still in there or it all gets a bit much, BUT if they keep nominations simple (not so many twists, not putting people up for failing a task or crap like that) you'll inevitably have a few "nicey nicey" characters who dodge nomination right until the end.

[BBDodge]

Yes, only 2 up means that a larger group can pick off a smaller group 1 by 1.

With 3 up a smaller group can put up one of the larger group and if viewers don't like the larger group they can knock them down to size.

[ComingToGetYou]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I honestly think the thing that would solve most of the problems is having no head-to-heads. Minimum 3 (or even 4) in every vote makes vote manipulation much harder, twists or no twists.

Also vote to save over vote to evict. Frustrating as it can be ... it ultimately always makes for a more entertaining show, and culls some of the boring characters earlier. You need a good "mix" with some slightly bland ones still in there or it all gets a bit much, BUT if they keep nominations simple (not so many twists, not putting people up for failing a task or crap like that) you'll inevitably have a few "nicey nicey" characters who dodge nomination right until the end.

In a C5 era episode, I don't remember exactly when but I seem to recall one week the production team waited to see who was nominated for eviction before telling us whether it was VTE or VTS - and it felt really manipulated, as if they had an agenda to get X out so they knew which voting system would work more in their favour. So if they're going to change between VTS and VTE, I'd like them to announce ahead of nominations what the system will be that week. Should cut some of the 'favouritism'/'manipulation' accusations too.

[chris.g]

Remember when they released the eviction vote tally halfway through the week one year just to make sure the person who had the most votes at that point, didn't go home

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