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Old 20-09-2023, 03:47 PM #26
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This is Massive Changes






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it's putting clear daylight between tories and labour. It will be interesting how labour will react
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it's putting clear daylight between tories and labour. It will be interesting how labour will react

Yes they may have a problem.
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BBC asks is this about the Election?

Rishi says no,
he has being thinking of this for a long time



ITV Peston
Claims the boilermakers
have had the rug pulled under them.

Sunak no


He told Peston to ask Kemi

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it just seems like common sense to me
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Some if it I can see the sense of.

Just sick of his deceitful selective number crunching he does.

If I was Starmer, and thankfully I'm not.
I'd criticise the change of stance, however would in principle half-heartedly accept some of these changes, with the view of reviewing once and should he win the election.

I'm not bothered on the climate policy issues..
This PM and his hard-line heartless Ministers, should be out for alone the chaos they've helped create and the chaos they are still sustaining across the NHS.
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If we get Rwanda sorted this could be better times for Rishi
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Labour don't have a problem. This has been done for tory newspapers and a galahad base. Most of the public are aware of the climate emergency and it's consequences (between 70-80%).

it's another tory created problem, which I'd say would backfire, but the party is in such a state they've already bled out.
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Some if it I can see the sense of.

Just sick of his deceitful selective number crunching he does.

If I was Starmer, and thankfully I'm not.
I'd criticise the change of stance, however would in principle half-heartedly accept some of these changes, with the view of reviewing once and should he win the election.

I'm not bothered on the climate policy issues..
This PM and his hard-line heartless Ministers, should be out for alone the chaos they've helped create and the chaos they are still sustaining across the NHS.
Starmer criticising anyone else for changing their stance?
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Lets see all the Front Pages
later Slim.
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it just seems like common sense to me

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Lets see all the Front Pages
later Slim.
I've no doubt you'll take up 3 pages to post them all, but of course the tory papers will support it. It doesn't matter because the tories are getting wiped out in a year or so, and there's nothing that's going to change that fact.
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The Sun asked about HS2,
to Manchester?

Sunak, did not give him a answer.
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i think Sunak comes across very well on the subject
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I've no doubt you'll take up 3 pages to post them all, but of course the tory papers will support it. It doesn't matter because the tories are getting wiped out in a year or so, and there's nothing that's going to change that fact.
For You
I will post the Daily Mirror, First.
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Starmer criticising anyone else for changing their stance?
I'm as annoyed with Starmer as anyone else

However he hasn't yet put a manifesto of policies to the Nation under his leadership, which he has changed once in government..
As this lot have.

If he does win and goes back on his presented manifesto pledges..
Then fair criticism would be in order to add to all the other criticism I have of him.
However policy is still being formed and I know of NO leader taking over from another in the main 2 Parties who kept all their predecessors policies
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i think Sunak comes across very well on the subject
Yes I think the press are Surprised
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I will post the Daily Mirror, First.
For me, don't post any of them.

You should post socialist worker or morning star for me
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Sunak gave us 45mins


He has Now Concluded
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For me, don't post any of them.

You should post socialist worker or morning star for me

No Slim

You are Wrong
they become an Historical record.
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I'm as annoyed with Starmer as anyone else

However he hasn't yet put a manifesto of policies to the Nation under his leadership, which he has changed once in government..
As this lot have.

If he does win and goes back on his presented manifesto pledges..
Then fair criticism would be in order to add to all the other criticism I have of him.
However policy is still being formed and I know of NO leader taking over from another in the main 2 Parties who kept all their predecessors policies
Joey, you've seen it all. I know you have. I understand people are clinging to this "let's wait till he's in office then we'll hold his feet to the fire." approach, but it's too late then. Labour is going to cruise to victory, but they have no ambition to do anything, and have already tied themselves to a growth model that brought us 13 years of austerity and trickle down.
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I read yesterday that electric cars are 60% more expensive to insure

No one can afford heat pumps and alot of older homes do not have the insulation to make them effective

They want to phase out oil fired central heating in rural areas and replace with useless heatpumps

They also want to get rid of wood burning stoves.... super

I dont know why the UK needs to lead the world on this, let someone else lead on it
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I read yesterday that electric cars are 60% more expensive to insure

No one can afford heat pumps and alot of older homes do not have the insulation to make them effective

They want to phase out oil fired central heating in rural areas and replace with useless heatpumps

They also want to get rid of wood burning stoves.... super

I dont know why the UK needs to lead the world on this, let someone else lead on it

It’s crazy that we are going all out on this when we are a minuscule of the problem

Plus electric car owners are saying that the published figures on the stats are all exaggerated..


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Labour will keep it at 2030

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