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[bitontheslide]

Lets bankrupt the country when we contribute 1% to the climate problem .... that just makes a ton of sense

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lets bankrupt the country when we contribute 1% to the climate problem .... that just makes a ton of sense

But Bots we have to lead the way....

Probably the most BS counter argument around

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Sunak was Clever
waiting until the last day of Parliament
and by making it 4:30PM

Parliament would not have time to debate any of his plans

They are not back until Monday 16th of October


Conference recess 19 Sept 2023 - 16 Oct 2023

[joeysteele]

It's not really a drastic alteration to the plans anyhow.
It just adds to the possible belief here and abroad that the last batch of Con PMs and government cannot be trusted as to their word.

That however doesn't surprise me.

[bitontheslide]

all the car manufacturers can do one. The rest of the world isn't banning petrol cars until 2035, so they are spinning a tale when they say it badly affects them.

The world is a connected economy. All major economies should do the transitions at the same time

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[Campaigners are likely to bring legal
challenges to try to block changes
to the UK's net zero strategy,
according to the Guardian.
It comes after Mr Sunak announced delays and extensions
to a number of climate-related targets that
critics say will make it harder for the
government to meet a legally-binding commitment
to eliminate the UK's contribution to the
level of greenhouse gases in
the atmosphere by 2050.
The paper says that a number of campaign groups,
including Friends of the Earth
and the Good Law Project, are exploring legal action.]

[joeysteele]

I doubt this will get the full response he hoped.
It's not a drastic change.
He hasn't presented it with full integrity and facts.

I don't honestly see where Labour particularly need to do more than criticise his small alterations as to dates.
Change them back if they wish to but I'd just go with the changes anyhow.
Not make a great meal of it.

The ultimate target remains, so it may really end up a non event in the end from him and his hopeless advisers .

[bitontheslide]

it's all designed to create a conflict point between tory and labour, and labour are falling for it

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I doubt this will get the full response he hoped.
It's not a drastic change.
He hasn't presented it with full integrity and facts.

I don't honestly see where Labour particularly need to do more than criticise his small alterations as to dates.
Change them back if they wish to but I'd just go with the changes anyhow.
Not make a great meal of it.

The ultimate target remains, so it may really end up a non event in the end from him and his hopeless advisers .

Yes Starmer should back the 2035 date
as many can not afford heat pumps.


And Starmer is setting up a New UK Energy Company
we can all join and save cash

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

No Starmer should back the 2035 date
as many can not afford heat pumps.


And Starmer is setting up a New UK Energy Company
we can all join and save cash

That's actually what I said in effect
That Labour should just go with the changes.

They're not worth making much of a fuss about in my view.

[arista]

Changed my No to Yes
at the start

[The Slim Reaper]

I'd already bought my 750 bins that was made up, and I was more than ready to pay my meat tax that also was never going to exist. I too like to make things up, then ban them.

[bitontheslide]

All Sunak did was say that some of the rumours weren't going to happen. Thing is, if you are going to do that, if you don't name them all, then that implies that some rumours are going to happen. For example he didn't deny the charge per car mile was going to happen

[The Slim Reaper]

If you're living in fantasy world, you can deny or ignore whatever you want. It's desperate stuff. He needs to just call an election, so the red Tories can continue on his party's great work.

Go and swim in his money like scrooge McDuck, because it's all over for them.