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Old 05-10-2023, 05:14 PM #1
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A more “aspirational” house and housemates who represent different sections of society and will engage in the debates of modern Britain are among the changes as Big Brother goes “back to basics” when it returns to British TV on Sunday.

At a time when division is exacerbated by culture wars and social media echo chambers, the producers have taken the format back to its social experiment roots by narrowing down 30,000 applications to just 16 housemates who reflect the “changes in society” since the reality show was axed five years ago by Channel 5.

“Gender identity terms like ‘non-binary’ and ‘gender fluid’ were nonexistent in society,” previously, Khagram said, along with, “phrases like ‘Black Lives Matter’ or ‘Me Too’ … we’ve been through a global pandemic since the last series of Big Brother aired”, so when choosing housemates the team was “mindful and representative” of “changes in the way we tackle mental health, political viewpoints, empowerment, prejudice and equality”.

Big Brother’s executive producer, Natalka Znak, said she was interested in finding people with “different accents” and “ordinary jobs” along with older contestants – the age range is from 18 to about 50+ – to ensure “a variety in age [and] backgrounds so it is a social experiment, because they’re just trapped in that [Big Brother] world”.

She was keen to find people who will provide “all the debates of modern society … you do want the national things that people are talking about … different generations approach things differently. I’m interested in that debate [and] in what young people think of old people.”

However, housemates and production teams were given inclusion and diversity training because “people are from different backgrounds” so might not “understand … why things might be unacceptable”.

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Sounds good to me. A healthy mix of different people.
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This. Can’t see this is an issue for anyone with at least a functioning brain cell.
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I'm fairly sure people were identifying as nonbinary back when it finished on C5, and a while before that. It's nothing new.
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Sounds good to me. A healthy mix of different people.
Yeah, same. I really hope it's not filled with wannabe celebs, and influencers i'll be happy. A real mix of people will be great.
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Just as long as there aren’t loads of WUMs or trouble makers


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I mean, there will always be WUM's and trouble makers in BB tbf. It's not like the house has ever been a utopia with all getting along, holding hands and living in harmony.
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This. Can’t see this is an issue for anyone with at least a functioning brain cell.
Yeah it sounds good to me. Big Brother should be a mirror to society, and a lot of the buzzwords used in that press release are society.

No doubt it'll drive certain people apoplectic that their freedom is being eroded because the show they used to love where some lass chucked a wine bottle up her chuff is being watered down or whatever.
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We all know this will just mean the usual 20 something fame-seekers but brown. The days of diversity of thought being allowed on mainstream UK tv are well gone.
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Yeah it sounds good to me. Big Brother should be a mirror to society, and a lot of the buzzwords used in that press release are society.

No doubt it'll drive certain people apoplectic that their freedom is being eroded because the show they used to love where some lass chucked a wine bottle up her chuff is being watered down or whatever.
It will definitely trigger certain people that’s for sure!
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Let's see how diverse it is. Let's see the smack heads, the football hooligans, the homeless, the pizza delivery guys. The Brexiteers, the anti-vaxers, the MAGA's.
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what i liked about BB first time round was when there were the random little nuggets of absolute genius. Totally adhoc and unrehearsed. That doesn't require any special diversity, it just needs humans interacting naturally and spontaneously. If we get any moments like that, i will be happy
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We know what diverse means. Token Black. Token asian. Camp gay. Trans. Illegal migrant. Tree hugging eco-warrior. An Essex girl or boy and someone who works in the city of London
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It will obviously be "manufactured" diversity, not actual modern day British diversity. But as long as it's entertaining, and not all preachy i don't really care.
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Yeah it sounds good to me. Big Brother should be a mirror to society, and a lot of the buzzwords used in that press release are society.

No doubt it'll drive certain people apoplectic that their freedom is being eroded because the show they used to love where some lass chucked a wine bottle up her chuff is being watered down or whatever.
Didn't Kinga come from London with a Greek-Polish background?

Even the diverse people can shove a bottle up their fanny.
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Sound like an advert for John Lewis
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Sounds almost exactly like BB6, which was brilliant.

In fact, BB6 had multiple "token" black people, and still managed to be good!

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Sounds almost exactly like BB6, which was brilliant.

In fact, BB6 had multiple "token" black people, and still managed to be good!

Shocker, right?
Yes. Derek and Makosi were the best two characters of that series.

The camp gay Brian in BB2 was the best of his series.

The Asian Deena was the best in BB13

The Bi crazy guy Freddie/halfwit was the best of his series.

The communist lesbian, Carole was the best in season 8

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