[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

He is only in power while this war goes on.
After this, he will be removed in a Election.

do you even believe that?


the reason he is in power, due to corruption, same as Putin in Russia

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i don't hate jews


i do hate Benjamin Netanyahu though, never liked him to be fair



yes poor kidnapped Shani now dead, more blood on Benny's hands




yes not surrender to evil, but then you have to accept getting more blood on your hands then, with more hostages dying, while you could've done way more to try and save them

It's a massively dividing conflict because for likely the majority of people thinking of Israeli victims and Palestinian victims is near heartbreaking at the senseless losses of lives on both sides.
Yes Hamas are terrorists and they inflamed the tensions to war again this month.

Israel however needs to respond rightly but within international humanity laws.
Hamas don't and don't care.
However Israel needs to not follow the Hamas route on that.

I had concerns when Natanyahu was elected but hoped for the fragile scenario to continue.

I am however fed up of the antisemitic accusations fired at people who DON'T like Natanyahu or the Israeli government.
That's totally ridiculous and does a massive injustice to real antisemitic thinking and action.
I've had it thrown at me on here and it's grossly insulting.

From what you've said I cannot see where you've EVER come across.like a Jew hater.
That may suit some to stir up divisions and attack individuals who only really care about senseless loss of lives.

Those accusations are dangerous and disgraceful to make on here by anyone.
I don't care who they are or think they are.
I myself and I think the majority of the world want peace in that region.
For both Israel and Palestine.
If as much effort was put into achieving that and trying to unite rather than trying to divide.
That would be better than throwing false accusations of being antisemitic to people to further ignite divisions.
When it's not antisemitism at all.
No government even our own.
Should be able to.just do anything with a blank cheque given.

Criticising the Israeli leadership and governnent is NOT antisemitism.
Just as supporting Palestinian citizens isn't antisemitism either.
.
Supporting Hamas and it's vile cruel actions, well that's very different.
Because they are an abomination to reason and any decency.

[Liam-]

[Nicky91]

amen Joey

i like israel, i like the hebrew language a lot, i listen to lots of israeli music, Gal Gadot to name one in the entertainment world, not just as superhero Wonder Woman but also a pretty superb performance in Death on the Nile


i always am silent for 2 minutes each year on May 4th War Remembrance Day



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simply bombing gaza is not the correct choice here


and several palestinians cannot evacuate especially those in hospitals, the terminally ill and those who need urgent treatments, whom otherwise die in the evacuations


cutting power from Gaza, also severing them from clean drinkwater, them having to drink seawater is also pretty sad to see


i would've given Netanyahu the advice, for a clean and stealthy operation joined forces of the Mossad and USA's special forces (same ones who eliminated Bin Laden basically) Hamas are terrorists, terrorists are a global threat (same as ISIL, Al Qaeda) and when you know that there are many innocent palestinians also living in Gaza, i don't think bombing is the best way to go at all, Hamas also kinda use those palestinians as human shields to hide behind

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

and that is equally as disturbing as the video at the airport though I note you were silent on that

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Cherie]

Unreal, no wonder there are no police around when you actually need them

[arista]

[IDF says it has killed Hamas Jabalia battalion commander]

But sadly the IDF
bombed a Refugee camp in Gaza
Some did not leave, sadly.

They have dropped leaflets
written in Arabic.



All Media

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[IDF says it has killed Hamas Jabalia battalion commander]

But sadly the IDF
bombed a Refugee camp in Gaza
Some did not leave, sadly.

They have dropped leaflets
written in Arabic.



All Media

Awful

[Liam-]

So in other words, Israel purposefully bombed a refugee camp knowing there were refugees inside they had already chased from their homes

[LeatherTrumpet]

People shocked that war creates awful outcomes

Maybe the terror group Hamas should have considered this before?

Its their blood and their deaths

no one elses

2,000,000 German civilians died in WWII

we managed to make peace with that

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

amen Joey

i like israel, i like the hebrew language a lot, i listen to lots of israeli music, Gal Gadot to name one in the entertainment world, not just as superhero Wonder Woman but also a pretty superb performance in Death on the Nile


i always am silent for 2 minutes each year on May 4th War Remembrance Day



-------
simply bombing gaza is not the correct choice here


and several palestinians cannot evacuate especially those in hospitals, the terminally ill and those who need urgent treatments, whom otherwise die in the evacuations


cutting power from Gaza, also severing them from clean drinkwater, them having to drink seawater is also pretty sad to see


i would've given Netanyahu the advice, for a clean and stealthy operation joined forces of the Mossad and USA's special forces (same ones who eliminated Bin Laden basically) Hamas are terrorists, terrorists are a global threat (same as ISIL, Al Qaeda) and when you know that there are many innocent palestinians also living in Gaza, i don't think bombing is the best way to go at all, Hamas also kinda use those palestinians as human shields to hide behind

Really strong and thoughtful post Nicky.
Extremely strong and thought provoking

This conflict really is a desperately bad situation.

How things are now and have been for the last over 3 weeks now doesn't seem a solution.

Truth is, likely no one really has a solution.
Just hopes.
For sure the world's politicians seem to not have a clue what to do.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So in other words, Israel purposefully bombed a refugee camp knowing there were refugees inside they had already chased from their homes

They also killed a load of Hamas
in a tunnel under that area

It was a wrong amount of Collateral Damage

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The Sun reports comments by
Tory vice-chairman Lee Anderson,
who criticised police officers in London and Manchester
after footage emerged allegedly showing
some of them taking down posters of
Israeli children held hostage by Hamas.]

[arista]

One good thing.

The Rafah crossing from Gaza to Egypt
has now opened for foreign citizens

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

People shocked that war creates awful outcomes

Maybe the terror group Hamas should have considered this before?

Its their blood and their deaths

no one elses

2,000,000 German civilians died in WWII

we managed to make peace with that

Part of "making peace with that" was establishing a whole boatload of new international laws to outline war tactics that would be considered war crimes.

Such as bombing refugee camps.

[arista]

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Part of "making peace with that" was establishing a whole boatload of new international laws to outline war tactics that would be considered war crimes.

Such as bombing refugee camps.

we all know that war rules are only accepted in very specific circumstances. Similarly, UN resolutions (when they can actually get them through) mean absolutely nothing.

If you start calling Israel war criminals, what good does that then do? They have several levels more they can go to without blinking and while America and the UK may tut tut. They will always back Israel 100% behind the scenes

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we all know that war rules are only accepted in very specific circumstances. Similarly, UN resolutions (when they can actually get them through) mean absolutely nothing.

If you start calling Israel war criminals, what good does that then do? They have several levels more they can go to without blinking and while America and the UK may tut tut. They will always back Israel 100% behind the scenes

What good does it do to call war crimes war crimes? Hmm. What good does it do to call a rapist a rapist when 99% of them will never be convicted? Doesn't mean I'm going to stop calling them what they are.

"The world is hideously corrupt" really isn't a good reason not to.

[arista]

At least she tell the cops
he has kidney disease.

Scottish Strong Voices
needs subtitles

https://twitter.com/LeoKearse/status...47471679275048

Leo Kearse:
[London's police arrest a man for asking:
"Why are they over here?
We let them into our country"
-at a march where people were chanting for
the extermination of Jews,
without any interference from the police.

London's police are under the control of Sadiq Khan.
This isn't just two tier policing, this is a takeover.
Hate speech laws are used to protect violent
bigots and persecute anyone who questions them.

This is only going to get worse under Labour.]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

do you even believe that?


the reason he is in power, due to corruption, same as Putin in Russia

Yes,
just before October 7th
he was facing court action.

And would be taken out of power.

His Corruption has caught up with him.



While this War
is going on, he has a Liberal Co-Leader,
and will stay in power

[Nicky91]

this is why bombings are stupid, should've more been done another way, with special forces commando's highly trained to take down terrorist thugs, without killing too many innocent civilians


also ordering evacuations is likely to alert the terrorists in that area too


Benny doesn't think things through sadly (this new bombing incident is more food for his haters tbh)

[arista]

Yes there is rush to kill all Hamas troops.

But Deep Hamas tunnels
are still there,
with over 200
hostages that are split up.