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Old 24-11-2023, 08:56 AM #1
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Being more clever has been "strongly linked" to voting to Remain in the EU in the 2016 Brexit referendum, a study has shown.

Researchers from the University of Bath looked at whether cognitive skills including memory, verbal fluency and numerical reasoning were linked to how people decided to vote. It found that only 40% of people with the lowest cognitive ability voted Remain, while 73% of those with the highest cognitive ability voted remain.

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As if there isn't already enough to divide people, now a "study has proved" that people who voted leave are stupid.
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Wasnt it lots of "clever" people who ran the remain campaign so badly that the country voted to leave?

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Wasnt it lots of "clever" people who ran the remain campaign so badly that the country voted to leave?

I have to agree.
I was appalled at the remain campaign as much as I was with the leave campaign.

Depends on what people term being clever too.
People can be 'clever' in extremely negative ways as well as positive.

I have to agree with you that really the renain campaign seemed like it was more like run by fools.
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Eh, I’d more agree if the result was ‘easily lead’ and ‘misinformed’ voted to leave because that is undoubtedly true
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.. and the highest IQs don’t bother with politics at all




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this doesnt surprise me at all
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Haha, well they're all thick in the government.

I've never seen such brain dead people in my life, and the fact they're supposedly running the country, it confirms why the UK has gone down the plughole.
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Intelligence is not easily calculable. Like Sandy Toksvig said: Cambridge is full of people who can split the atom but can't change a plug.
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Haha, well they're all thick in the government.

I've never seen such brain dead people in my life, and the fact they're supposedly running the country, it confirms why the UK has gone down the plughole.

Exactly !!

Why do we still allow incompetent, inept , immoral people run our country year after year , decade after decade


Why not have extraordinary , intelligent ,honest upstanding folk in charge ?!?


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Intelligence is not easily calculable. Like Sandy Toksvig said: Cambridge is full of people who can split the atom but can't change a plug.

...and intelligent people rarely have Common Sense.
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Intelligence is not easily calculable. Like Sandy Toksvig said: Cambridge is full of people who can split the atom but can't change a plug.
That has literally nothing to do with intelligence - they can't change a plug because they haven't learned how to change a plug. If someone shows a particle physicist how to change a plug... they'll be able to change a plug. The average joe couldn't learn and understand advanced physics in three lifetimes.

I will add the obvious note that this does not at all apply in all cases - there are plenty of intelligent people who don't go down an academic route either by choice or circumstance, that's not what I'm talking about. More just pointing out that realistically... anyone who can't do basic DIY tasks actually COULD do them if they learned.
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Take it up with Toksvig.
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Take it up with Toksvig.
I'm not saying the statement isn't true, it's very true that a lot of clever people have no idea how to do some very basic things. Cars are a good example - many very highly educated people can barely change a blown headlight bulb, let alone do an oil change or figure out something more serious. Because it's simply something they've never taken the time to learn. Does that mean that your local mechanic is smarter than them? No.

Again though you also can't say for sure that your local mechanic ISN'T smarter than them - maybe if they'd wanted to go down another route, they could have. I'm not saying "manual workers are thick". However I can say quite confidently that anyone can learn car basics, but not everyone can gain higher education qualifications.
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I don't understand this!
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People who can't tell the difference between male and female are claiming the most intelligence.
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A fact that cant be argued Alfred
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That has literally nothing to do with intelligence - they can't change a plug because they haven't learned how to change a plug. If someone shows a particle physicist how to change a plug... they'll be able to change a plug. The average joe couldn't learn and understand advanced physics in three lifetimes.

I will add the obvious note that this does not at all apply in all cases - there are plenty of intelligent people who don't go down an academic route either by choice or circumstance, that's not what I'm talking about. More just pointing out that realistically... anyone who can't do basic DIY tasks actually COULD do them if they learned.
I'm not sure how literal her statement was meant to be tbh. Sound more like illustrative hyperbole than anything else. It's obvious what she's getting at.

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I have to agree.
I was appalled at the remain campaign as much as I was with the leave campaign.

Depends on what people term being clever too.
People can be 'clever' in extremely negative ways as well as positive.

I have to agree with you that really the renain campaign seemed like it was more like run by fools.
If the Remain campaign actually made more of an effort, it might have swayed enough people to get the result they wanted. They seemed to think that it was a forgone conclusion, which it was tbh ... just not in the way they thought
Even if they couldn't have changed 2% of the Leave voters' minds, they might have got some of those who didn't vote to turn up.
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