[arista]

Over an old UK Court charge.


They (his brother) did not want to go.


SkyNewsHD Live Debate.




https://news.sky.com/story/andrew-ta...rrant-13093008

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68547871

[Gusto Brunt]

This guy is a non-entity.

I'll never understand his so called appeal and 'popularity'..

Baffling. What a clown.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

This guy is a non-entity.

I'll never understand his so called appeal and 'popularity'..

Baffling. What a clown.

Millions of young lads follow him
Even in the USA.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

This guy is a non-entity.

I'll never understand his so called appeal and 'popularity'..

Baffling. What a clown.

Gusto you will never be a top-G with that attitude

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

This guy is a non-entity.

I'll never understand his so called appeal and 'popularity'..

Baffling. What a clown.

He plays on young guys insecurities, and slowly turns them into Incels.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

He plays on young guys insecurities, and slowly turns them into Incels.

Yes Incels
have increased because of Tate.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Incels
have increased because of Tate.

And I'm personally concerned about that.

Between the Incels and the radical Feminists, the stupidity and unlikability meter goes off the chart, we as a society need to discourage that train of thought, because both groups do have a habit of causing havoc in society, especially when they get violent (which admittedly is more of an Incel issue,) but it still is an issue with the radical branch of Feminism.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

And I'm personally concerned about that.



Between the Incels and the radical Feminists, the stupidity and unlikability meter goes off the chart, we as a society need to discourage that train of thought, because both groups do have a habit of causing havoc in society, especially when they get violent (which admittedly is more of an Incel issue,) but it still is an issue with the radical branch of Feminism.

When have feminists got violent? I don't think that's a fair comparison at all

[thesheriff443]

The police are so willing to get Tate arrested in another country but are letting rapist off if they apologise to the victim

They are also releasing prisoners two months early from their sentences to make room in the prisons

It’s a joke

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The police are so willing to get Tate arrested in another country but are letting rapist off if they apologise to the victim

They are also releasing prisoners two months early from their sentences to make room in the prisons

It’s a joke

Typical of you
they are only releasing 2 months early
low-level crime criminals

Do not miss out on important data

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

When have feminists got violent? I don't think that's a fair comparison at all

Admittedly the one example I was going to use turned out to be staged.

Fair enough you do have a point on that Niamh.

Tbh I think that Incels are the more violent group anyway.

Because I'm also separating normal Feminists that just want what they believe is best for women, but still respect men, to the radical Feminists who also want what they believe to be best for women, but despise men and ridicule men every step of the way.

I don't know if I'm explaining myself very well here.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Admittedly the one example I was going to use turned out to be staged.

Fair enough you do have a point on that Niamh.

Tbh I think that Incels are the more violent group anyway.

Because I'm also separating normal Feminists that just want what they believe is best for women, but still respect men, to the radical Feminists who also want what they believe to be best for women, but despise men and ridicule men every step of the way.

I don't know if I'm explaining myself very well here.

That's not what radical feminism means at all

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by arista

Typical of you
they are only releasing 2 months early
low-level crime criminals

Do not miss out on important data

So because it’s low level it’s fine to release prisoners not based on serving there. Sentence but based on being over crowded

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's not what radical feminism means at all

What would you call radical feminism?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What would you call radical feminism?

Radical feminism believes that there is a patriarchy

[arista]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So because it’s low level it’s fine to release prisoners not based on serving there. Sentence but based on being over crowded

They have no choice
as the Jails are full.



New Prisons need to be built
Scotland would be ideal

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Radical feminism believes that there is a patriarchy

Maybe my term can be called Femcels then.

Basically Incels of the women variety, but less violent.

[arista]

On this story,


Romanian justice claims they will give him & his brother
a sentence first
before they could leave for this old UK charge, anyway

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Maybe my term can be called Femcels then.

Basically Incels of the women variety, but less violent.

the "cel" bit stands for celibate

[Soldier Boy]

Mock I think you might be misunderstanding the use of the word "radical" to mean extreme, what you're describing sounds more like feminist extremism. Which does exist, I'm sure, but to suggest that it's concerning or pervasive in a similar way to Tate-style Redpill ideology is just really not accurate.

I would however note that it's dangerous to think of Andrew Tate as the cause. He's not the cause, he's a symptom - an opportunistic parasite who has fed on this culture for his own gain. It's a culture that was festering away on Reddit/4chan etc. when Tate was still in school getting bullied for not having any discernable chin.

e.g. I find the movie "Magnolia" (1999) fascinating these days, as Tom Cruise's character is a man doing EXACTLY the same thing as Tate (in a very pre-internet way). Andrew Tate was 13 in 1999.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Mock I think you might be misunderstanding the use of the word "radical" to mean extreme, what you're describing sounds more like feminist extremism. Which does exist, I'm sure, but to suggest that it's concerning or pervasive in a similar way to Tate-style Redpill ideology is just really not accurate.

I would however note that it's dangerous to think of Andrew Tate as the cause. He's not the cause, he's a symptom - an opportunistic parasite who has fed on this culture for his own gain. It's a culture that was festering away on Reddit/4chan etc. when Tate was still in school getting bullied for not having any discernable chin.

e.g. I find the movie "Magnolia" (1999) fascinating these days, as Tom Cruise's character is a man doing EXACTLY the same thing as Tate (in a very pre-internet way). Andrew Tate was 13 in 1999.

I need to rewatch that movie actually

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I need to rewatch that movie actually

I honestly think Tate watched it and was inspired.



"Respect the c**k! And tame the ******! Tame it! Take it on headfirst with the skills that I will teach you at work and say no! You will not control me! No! You will not take my soul! No! You will not win this game! Because it's a game, guys. You want to think it's not, huh? You want to think it's not? Go back to the schoolyard and you have that crush on big-titted Mary Jane. Respect the c**k. You are embedding this thought. I am the one who's in charge. I am the one who says yes! No! Now! Here! Because it's universal, man. It is evolutional. It is anthropological. It is biological. It is animal. We... are... men!"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I honestly think Tate watched it and was inspired.



"Respect the c**k! And tame the ******! Tame it! Take it on headfirst with the skills that I will teach you at work and say no! You will not control me! No! You will not take my soul! No! You will not win this game! Because it's a game, guys. You want to think it's not, huh? You want to think it's not? Go back to the schoolyard and you have that crush on big-titted Mary Jane. Respect the c**k. You are embedding this thought. I am the one who's in charge. I am the one who says yes! No! Now! Here! Because it's universal, man. It is evolutional. It is anthropological. It is biological. It is animal. We... are... men!"

Oh god, yeah sounds just like him

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh god, yeah sounds just like him

That plus the fact that it's all to cash in on sad/frustrated men so that they buy into his programme of events and books... it really is just "Hustler's University" before the Social Media age.

[Oliver_W]

I could've sworn that film was about a bunch of galpals including Dolly Parton and Tinkerbell from Hook, how tf does Tom Cruise's character fit in to all that?