[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh
You're right that Calzaghe ruined Lacy's career. Before the fight, there was so much talk of how Lacy would outbox Calzaghe. In the end Calzaghe completely dominated him.

That turned out to be one of the dafter predictions from some of those supposed experts.

The next time Lacy steps up in class he'll lose yet again.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_

That turned out to be one of the dafter predictions from some of those supposed experts.

The next time Lacy steps up in class he'll lose yet again.

You're right he probably will. The fight on saturday was awful; neither fighter looked good at all. Manfredo was too tentative and Lacy just looked ring rusty. Shame because it was a chance to audition to any promoters who were watching. Both fighters failed the audition.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

You're right he probably will. The fight on saturday was awful; neither fighter looked good at all. Manfredo was too tentative and Lacy just looked ring rusty. Shame because it was a chance to audition to any promoters who were watching. Both fighters failed the audition.

I wonder what they will do with Jeff now? Look to try and get him another title shot at smw? It looks like Joe's going to vacate the 3 world titles he's got so there's a chance for him to go for one of them.Bute and Zuniga hold the other belts at smw.

Not just promoters watching but more potential fans, had they given a good account of themselves they might have got more viewers for future fights.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
I wonder what they will do with Jeff now? Look to try and get him another title shot at smw? It looks like Joe's going to vacate the 3 world titles he's got so there's a chance for him to go for one of them.Bute and Zuniga hold the other belts at smw.

Not just promoters watching but more potential fans, had they given a good account of themselves they might have got more viewers for future fights.

I hope someone like Carl Froch gets a crack at 'left hook' Lacy. In fact, Froch should be loking to fight those kind of fighters to make a bit more of a name for himself.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I hope someone like Carl Froch gets a crack at 'left hook' Lacy. In fact, Froch should be loking to fight those kind of fighters to make a bit more of a name for himself.

Froch is meant to be fighting the unbeaten Russian, Denis Inkin sometime in the new year to get a shot at Zuniga.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
Froch is meant to be fighting the unbeaten Russian, Denis Inkin sometime in the new year to get a shot at Zuniga.

I'm glad to see he's finally getting over his obsession with Calzaghe.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I'm glad to see he's finally getting over his obsession with Calzaghe.

I know, he's been talking about Joe for far too long, pretty laughable that he wanted to fight him back when he'd beaten a load of journeyman.He needs to beat someone like Inkin and get his own title.

At this stage of Joe's career it would be daft for him to be fighting someone like Froch.The Americans haven't got much interest in that fight so it's hardly going to give Joe a the money he's seeking.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
I know, he's been talking about Joe for far too long, pretty laughable that he wanted to fight him back when he'd beaten a load of journeyman.He needs to beat someone like Inkin and get his own title.

At this stage of Joe's career it would be daft for him to be fighting someone like Froch.The Americans haven't got much interest in that fight so it's hardly going to give Joe a the money he's seeking.

Did you see Calzaghe facing down Bernard Hopkins at the Hatton V Mayweather weigh in? That could be an interesting fight. I think Calzaghe will win but it would have been an even more interesting fight if it had happened five years ago.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Did you see Calzaghe facing down Bernard Hopkins at the Hatton V Mayweather weigh in? That could be an interesting fight. I think Calzaghe will win but it would have been an even more interesting fight if it had happened five years ago.

Aye.Joe will just be too quick for old Uncle Bernard, that's if they do meet.Supposedly Hopkins turned down the fight a few years back.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
Supposedly Hopkins turned down the fight a few years back.

Did he? It was Hopkins who was doing most of the staring down. Maybe things have changed for Bernard. He should retire anyway. Forty two is way too old for a professional boxer.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Did he? It was Hopkins who was doing most of the staring down. Maybe things have changed for Bernard. He should retire anyway. Forty two is way too old for a professional boxer.

According to Joe he did, guess he was still at middleweight at the time though.

I don't get why Bernard keeps on going, he must be a very rich man by now.I suppose his style's allowed for him to stay in better condition than many others but he don't need to carry on.He must get enjoyment out of it.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
According to Joe he did, guess he was still at middleweight at the time though.

I don't get why Bernard keeps on going, he must be a very rich man by now.I suppose his style's allowed for him to stay in better condition than many others but he don't need to carry on.He must get enjoyment out of it.

Perhaps Bernard has squandered all his money, so has to keep fighting.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

Perhaps Bernard has squandered all his money, so has to keep fighting.

From the documentary I saw on him, I'd say that it's very unlikely he has.That would be a whole load of squandering if he did anyway.

I've seen that the British Boxing Council have made Amir Khan the mandatory challenger for the British Lightweight title currently held by Jonathan Thaxton.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
From the documentary I saw on him, I'd say that it's very unlikely he has.That would be a whole load of squandering if he did anyway.

I've seen that the British Boxing Council have made Amir Khan the mandatory challenger for the British Lightweight title currently held by Jonathan Thaxton.

I know it's unlikely that Bernard has squandered his money. He's way too sensible to do that.

Have the BBC sanctions any kind of date for the fight?

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

I know it's unlikely that Bernard has squandered his money. He's way too sensible to do that.

Have the BBC sanctions any kind of date for the fight?

Before April of next year.It's meant to be happening in February.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Dan_
Before April of next year.It's meant to be happening in February.

It's good that Amir is being kept busy. He needs to step up in class though. Is this bloke any good?

[Dan_]

Originally posted by GiRTh

It's good that Amir is being kept busy. He needs to step up in class though. Is this bloke any good?

Most thought Earl was a step up in class, that soon turned out to be wrong.Thaxton is a veteran and hasn't lost in 4 years but he's been fighting mainly poor opposition.He took 7 rounds to beat Scott Lawton earlier in the year and Amir only took 3.He's lost 7 times in total but took Ricky Hatton the full 12 rounds back in 2000, weren't an easy fight for Ricky as he got cut early on.

Basically he's lost most of the times he's stepped up in class.KO'd by Eamonn Magee,Jason Rowland,Emanuel Augustus and Colin Dunne with his other defeats coming against Keith Marner and Rene Prins some 12/13 years back.

He looked fairly poor in his last fight but managed to KO the guy in the final round to avoid losing on points.I'd pick Amir to beat him, possibly a mid-to later round stoppage.He's slow but still packs a punch.

[GiRTh]

Oh dear. Is there anyone on the domestic front who can give Amir a good fight?

[Dan_]

I think he's beaten most of the higher ranked Brits now.Only really Thaxton and a young unbeaten lad named John Murray.

[GiRTh]

He needs to go to the states. They'll find some decent oponents for him.

[Dan_]

I think if he beats Thaxton and then Murray he'll face the European champ Romanov.After that it's probably a trip to America to face a few durable fighters, after that he could be looking at world title shots.

[GiRTh]

The sooner they get him a world title shot the better. He's had 15 fights so far. He needs to be pushing for the shot by the time he reaches 20 fights. He should be ready by then.

[Dan_]

It all depends on the level of competition.I don't think if he's still learning to do different things against different styles he's going to be ready for a crack at one of the top guys in the world at his weight.He just needs to fight some better guys and a couple of tough American/Mexican who aren't just going to get knocked out early on.

[GiRTh]

Agreed. They need to pick his opponents. They need guys who are going to test him.

[GiRTh]

I watched the fight on BBC yesterday. It was easier for Mayweather than I remembered. Maybe the lateness of the hour had got to me when I first watched it. I think Dan_ is right, the fight was fairly even after 4 round and from then on Mayweather bossed it completely. Hatton bought out the best in Mayweather but if anything it made Mayweatehr box better.

Incidentally, the BBC comentator was complainig about the ref just as much as the Sky comentators were. I hopw Joe Cortez has a few questionsto answer after his dodgy display.