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01-07-2008, 02:41 PM | #51 | |||
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01-07-2008, 02:43 PM | #52 | |||
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I was a bit slow there. Girth beat me to it.
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01-07-2008, 02:44 PM | #53 | |||
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01-07-2008, 02:46 PM | #56 | |||
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Is everyone just avoiding what I said about being called a jock?
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01-07-2008, 02:48 PM | #57 | |||
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01-07-2008, 02:52 PM | #59 | |||
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Lauren, you say you don't laugh about the sign thing. but your very first post on the shop with the sign was this.
My local shop is owned by a Pakistani family, and he put a joke sign above the door saying "**** Shop" Note the laughing smiley. This was followed by _Audrey saying Ha ha ha, I think. So I would suggest that some would find it funny including yourself. Fair enough on you asking him about the sign. |
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01-07-2008, 02:53 PM | #61 | ||
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I have never and will use the word because of its connotation with the way that some people use the term in a very derogatory way.
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01-07-2008, 02:55 PM | #62 | |||
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Likewise, I don't say jock. Do you find jock offensive _Audrey?
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01-07-2008, 02:56 PM | #63 | |||
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01-07-2008, 03:01 PM | #64 | |||
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Using your Jock is just a bastardisation of another word argument you are saying it is ok to say "******" as that is just a bastardisation if the word Negro. Negro is Portuguese for the word black. Nothing to do with race. I am sure you would agree that is silly. I see no difference in the words "****** and "****" and there racial connotations.
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01-07-2008, 03:02 PM | #65 | |||
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01-07-2008, 03:03 PM | #66 | |||
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Why might they find jock offensive?
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01-07-2008, 03:08 PM | #67 | |||
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Because it's stereotypical.
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01-07-2008, 03:39 PM | #68 | |||
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I note you admit words like '****' are offensive. Thats good to see. |
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01-07-2008, 03:42 PM | #70 | |||
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I don't see what is offensive about using it as a short term for Pakistani, to someone who is not offended by it. |
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01-07-2008, 03:50 PM | #71 | |||
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Audrey, So if some people of that demographic dont find it offensive then its OK. So you think its OK to call someone a **** if they dont find it offensive but what if the person standing next to them finds it offensive. What do you do? Once again you're simply defending your right to use the word. Why is using this word so important? Or is it as Ruth put it, you're simply defending your right to be offensive to whomever you want?
Lauren, are you kidding? How do you justify using the word '****' as a short version of Pakistani. According to dictionary.com "Used as a disparaging term for a person from Pakistan or neighboring countries or for the descendant of such a person." Given that why are you bothering with this word? Is it so you can also defend your right to use the word. |
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I was stating that there are certain situations where I feel the word wouldn't be offensive, or insulting like everyone makes out - but on the whole it's best not to take chances on using it to describe someone's creed. |
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