Joe Joe plummets out of the top 10 ... now at #25 - The X Factor 2009 [S6] - ThisisBigBrother.com

Tom · 10-01-2010, 07:07 PM

He's fallen to #15 already. he was at #2 last week

On average, the winners had only just been knocked off #1 spot

Doesn't bode well for when he releases his first proper single

Stephanie · 10-01-2010, 07:08 PM

uh oh

Harry! · 10-01-2010, 07:17 PM

To be fair the single isnt premoted much now.

MarkWaldorf · 10-01-2010, 07:44 PM

To say it doesnt bode well is exagerating things when the song choice has been met with a negative response. He's been #1 in Ireland for 4 weeks now anyway, so its not as if the song isn't selling. 750k in 3 weeks is brilliant.

Tom · 10-01-2010, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf

To say it doesnt bode well is exagerating things when the song choice has been met with a negative response. He's been #1 in Ireland for 4 weeks now anyway, so its not as if the song isn't selling. 750k in 3 weeks is brilliant.

But at this point all other winners have still been in the top 3 ... to drop to #15 his sales must have dropped dramatically this week, and it shows theres no sustainability especially with it being the first single

Ireland is irrelevant, its a tiny market

30stone · 10-01-2010, 08:12 PM

How much did Ratm drop after xmas?

Arneldo · 10-01-2010, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkWaldorf

He's been #1 in Ireland for 4 weeks now anyway, so its not as if the song isn't selling. 750k in 3 weeks is brilliant.

tbh, it doesn't take a lot of get a Irish muber 1.

Stacey. · 10-01-2010, 08:13 PM

Aw, good luck to joe anyway!

MarkWaldorf · 11-01-2010, 01:27 PM

As I said before, chart competition...

Quote:

This week's sales : 21,147
Total : 737,505

That's better than I was expecting because when I saw that Joe was #15, I thought that he had probably sold 'only' 15,000.

Compared to the 4th week's sales of other X Factor winners, Joe is #3 despite having the biggest sales drop :
1. Alexandra Burke : hallelujah : 34,400 (-67%)
2. Shayne Ward : that's my goal : 31,700 (-41%)
3. Joe McElderry : the climb : 21,100 (-70%)
4. Leona Lewis : a moment like this : 20,400 (-48%)
5. Leon Jackson : when you believe : 16,500 (-49%)
6. Steve Brookstein : against all odds : 10,800 (-39%)

It was a week of big big sales, that's why Joe has fallen so many places. With 34,400 copies sold this year, Alexandra Burke would have only been #6 in this week's chart (she was ranked #3 last year), Shayne Ward would have been #7 (he was #1), Leona Lewis would have been #16 (she was #1 !) and Leon Jackson would have been #21 (he was #5).

Shaun · 11-01-2010, 01:35 PM

Still the biggest fall (70%)

Shaun · 11-01-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 30stone

How much did Ratm drop after xmas?

First week they went to #2, next week they then dropped to #39 and then out.

Zippy · 17-01-2010, 07:41 AM

It just means that all the people who wanted it rushed out and bought it early on thats all. A record can hang around the top 5 for several months and still not sell that many copies so the period of time is not all that relevant really. Fact is, three quarts of a million people liked his voice enough to buy his first record. Thats a good base to launch his solo career from.

That record was more about the end of his X factor chapter anyway...not the beginning of his solo career. Thats a fresh start and he needs to get some strong songs or he will fail. Any winner will fail without great songs, no matter how talented. Look at Adam lambert(not a winner, I know); poor songs have hindered his solo career despite huge hype.

Tom · 17-01-2010, 11:48 PM

His fall continued, he's now at #25.

Not good at all

Beastie · 17-01-2010, 11:49 PM

Is his next single going to be yet another cover? (Journey's dont stop believing?)

Jack_ · 18-01-2010, 12:11 AM

It hardly gets or had any radio airplay (at least on Radio 1) anyway. I don't think I ever saw it higher than the 'C List Playlist', which is awful for a winners single. Surprised me really, but I think the novelty might have worn off.

MrGaryy · 18-01-2010, 12:16 AM

the only reason it sold so well in the first place was people rebelling against the Rage campaign.

Raph · 18-01-2010, 12:17 AM

aww poor thing, come on Joe! <3

Stephanie · 18-01-2010, 12:25 AM

exactly. if joe fans hadn't been buying like 5 copies each he wouldn't have sold anywhere near that much.

Jack_ · 18-01-2010, 12:28 AM

I don't think it's Joe though, I genuinely do think that the novelty of XF getting Christmas number one has worn off, hence the campaign, hence the bad chart progress. I think next year will be even worse, assuming they will still be releasing it around the same time.

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Zippy User tanned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in squalor Posts: 12,139 Total Awards: 1	It just means that all the people who wanted it rushed out and bought it early on thats all. A record can hang around the top 5 for several months and still not sell that many copies so the period of time is not all that relevant really. Fact is, three quarts of a million people liked his voice enough to buy his first record. Thats a good base to launch his solo career from. That record was more about the end of his X factor chapter anyway...not the beginning of his solo career. Thats a fresh start and he needs to get some strong songs or he will fail. Any winner will fail without great songs, no matter how talented. Look at Adam lambert(not a winner, I know); poor songs have hindered his solo career despite huge hype.

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MrGaryy BURLESQUE Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Here, there and everywhere! Posts: 16,025 Blog Entries: 7 Total Awards: 3	the only reason it sold so well in the first place was people rebelling against the Rage campaign. __________________ DO SOMETHING SHOW STOPPING

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Stephanie Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: stalker! (n) Posts: 16,171 Total Awards: 1	exactly. if joe fans hadn't been buying like 5 copies each he wouldn't have sold anywhere near that much.

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