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28-07-2014, 10:25 PM | #1 | |||
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Kirsty wark. Give up.
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29-07-2014, 12:31 AM | #2 | ||
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Israel deserves everything it gets!
They've been slaughtering Palestinians and stealing their land and getting away with it for far too long. |
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29-07-2014, 12:50 AM | #3 | |||
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29-07-2014, 02:30 AM | #4 | ||
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israel is the worst country in the world
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29-07-2014, 10:41 AM | #5 | |||
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You'd think Israel was firing into Gaza for no reason. While Israel's reaction is way over the top, Hamas aren't exactly all sweeteness and light. And I would remind everyone that this latest bout of violence was sparked when three innocent Israeli teenagers were murdered by Hamas.
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29-07-2014, 01:17 PM | #6 | ||
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29-07-2014, 02:29 PM | #7 | |||
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It's lacroix darling
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Well I imagine attacking a deprived land with such an incredibly careless and relentless bombing campaign will earn consistent bad press. Israel ****ing deserves it.
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29-07-2014, 02:45 PM | #8 | |||
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Makes a nice change from the usual pro Israel we have had to put up with.
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29-07-2014, 03:19 PM | #9 | ||
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the appalling fox news are already calling the united nations anti semetic , what a sick joke
the UN? anyone who criticizes zionism or israel is a racist right? if you dont believe reverse racism exists well now you know it does and its every bit as bad as racism , maybe worse. the zionists are using reverse racism to justify butchering thousands and thousands of innocent people. heartless barstewards |
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29-07-2014, 08:10 PM | #10 | ||
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Israel used their deaths as an excuse to "retaliate"; i.e.carry out attacks that they already wanted to carry out and had already basically pre-planned, waiting only for the slightest reason to pull the trigger. Both sides in this conflict are in the grips of "war psychology"... committing atrocities with very little scope for empathy; both believing they are on the "right side". Of course Hamas are not all sweetness and light, but that's the very reason that they are in unchallenged control. The civilians feel powerless and are being offered ways to "fight back". Unfortunately, those ways are ineffective against a military funded to the tune of several billion by the United States. Like throwing pebbles at an Apache attack helicopter. BUT, if you take all of that out of the equation; the questionable Hamas leaders, the entirely disproportionate Israeli response, the decades-long sea blockades designed to keep the Palestinian economy barely functional... if you go right back... it boils down to this, for me: There is no justification for the formation of the state of Israel in international law. Absolutely none. It should never have happened, it was always destined to be an absolute disaster, it was largely pushed through out of guilt, and partly because Western powers found the idea of having a pet-state plonked down in that area of the word very attractive. But I don't think they foresaw quite this level of bloodthirstiness. They lost control of their puppy. Now it's just a ****ing mess. |
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29-07-2014, 08:55 PM | #11 | ||
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29-07-2014, 09:13 PM | #12 | ||
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the bbc 10 oclock news tonight ONLY reported the 2 israel deaths and not the 100+ palestinians who died today?
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29-07-2014, 10:11 PM | #13 | |||
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Not often the BBC is accused of being anti-Israel
Couple of weeks ago: http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...za-palestinian Quote:
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29-07-2014, 10:14 PM | #14 | |||
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This happens often on the news. Not sure why OP is so annoyed when it tends to always be the opposite anyway.
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30-07-2014, 08:05 AM | #15 | |||
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unfortunately, some people will always try to justify terrorism. on both sides. Hell, even I as an American can look back at history, and look at our war of independence, and i will justify any of the tactics my forefathers used to liberate our land from the British imperialists. Just like many will also justify attemptes at irish independence. and if some Scots are unhappy about the result after the referendum, i couldn't blame some Scots for taking up arms if they are not allow3d independence.
It's very complicated. Who are terrorists and who are freedom fighters? I think if you purposefully target civilians you are a terrorists though. and i don't think Israel is targeting civilians. Hamas definitely targets civilians. Hamas has sent suicide bombers into shopping centers just because they could kill more civilian people, people they knew had nothing to do with the government or military of Israel. Israel has never targeted an area just because it creates more civilian victims. Israel always targets an area to target military and political leaders specifically. so i think there is a difference.
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30-07-2014, 08:35 AM | #16 | ||
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And of course... that's just officially. There are, on the side of Israel, groups and organisations that can ONLY be described as terrorist organisations. I'm sure they fully believe that they're simply fighting for their "rightful land", but they are unofficial, armed illegally, use terror-tactics and DEFINITELY target civilians deliberately. Whilst they're (probably?) not condoned or funded by the Israeili government, they're also not particularly concerned with stopping them. |
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30-07-2014, 08:54 AM | #17 | ||
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israel are deliberately bombing schools and hospitals every day ? thats just pure evil and the UN and all nations must step in.
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30-07-2014, 09:50 AM | #18 | |||
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If the UN can't secure their own sites from being used by Hamas, then the UN has no business being there. Hamas should have the balls to create it's own military sites away from civilian populations. but they are too cowardly to act like a REAL military. they want to act like they are a legitimate military, with a legitimate cause, but they won't play by the rules of war. They intentionally hide behind civilians, and intentionally don't wear uniforms, and intentionally break all of the rules of geneva conventions.
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30-07-2014, 09:56 AM | #20 | |||
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Do you honestly think that Israel targeted any school or hospital just because it wanted to murder kids or sick people?
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30-07-2014, 10:14 AM | #21 | ||
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but theyre bombing them. knowing full well theyre killing 100s of innocent people. to bomb hospitals just to try and target some handful of people hiding with pea shooters is plain mental , evil too....the israelis seem to be looking for an excuse to hurt and destroy people. |
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30-07-2014, 10:36 AM | #22 | |||
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Hamas knows that by storing their military equipment there, they would be making a target of a humanitarian outpost, an outpost that is there just to help Palestinians. Please tell me why Hamas wants to put the people they are supposedly fighting to defend in MORE danger??? please explain to me why Hamas would do that??? Why does Hamas seem to care so little about actual Palestinian peoples lives, yet they claim to be fighting for the Palestinian people. It makes no sense to me.
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