[Miranda123]

.....................But you talk bollocks!!

Who'd pay for a psychotherapist who thought it was impossible for some people to change???

[Jordan.]

She was right about Chris

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

.....................But you talk bollocks!!

Who'd pay for a psychotherapist who thought it was impossible for some people to change???

She is really pathetic, they all are really but I find she talks even more nonsense.
I honestly haven't a clue why bbbots time is consumed by having these fame desperate people on in the first place.

[Mystic Mock]

Chris needs some sexual healing from Kimbot lol.

[Josy]

What did she say?

[Alf]

What Josy said

[Jords]

I thought she was pretty accurate regarding both Helen and Chris.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

She was right about Chris

My next door neighbours dog was right about Chris, he's walking around with a perv tag round his neck ffs (Chris is, not my next door neighbours dog)

She's a con artist on retainer is what she is!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jords

I thought she was pretty accurate regarding both Helen and Chris.

Me too...

[GypsyGoth]

The only thing I was paying attention for was how she said that Helen can't be bothered picking on the new people, so because of that Chris is picking on Pav, Chris is trying to establish that he has higher status than him.

And she also mentioned the bad treatment from Mark towards Christopher and how he said something like - I'd be so proud of you if you did it. Regarding him drinking the soya sauce and other condiments. She said that was one of the worst ways of trying to get someone to do something, maybe she said it was sly.

Anyway I must admit that I do like listening to her.

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

She was right about Chris

For you? And then she is psychotherapist???

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Josy

What did she say?

the complete obvious about Chris, he has a crush on Ashleigh (theyre paying her for this stuff, when they could get that info on here for free)

and she said that Helen couldnt change and that she would always be nasty and that she is playing nice cause she can see the final

I can understand the forum users who hate Helen saying that, I would too if I didnt like her, but a professional (supposed) saying she cant change??

Im betting she got her diploma on the internet.....

[MojoNixon]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Im betting she got her diploma on the internet.....

[debee]

I hear them saying Helen is still nasty underneath , can't change etc but Ashleigh it has been said, has changed , been on a journey and learnt. So why can one person be on a journey, learn from it and change, but not Helen. I feel really sorry for her that none of the so called professionals can see the difference. I think they go with what they think the public want to hear. For pitys sake give Helen a break. Mark has changed for the worse , how he treats Christopher is really not nice.

[Jake.]

Judy >>

[Bedouin]

Judi James is not a psychotherapist; she is some kind of a 'body language expert' which is pretty far off of being able to have a truly deep and insightful understanding of the human condition.

This is evidenced not only by her qualification but also her lack of compassion and, by the sounds of it, her patently untrue statement that Helen will be unable to change. Anyone who understands self knowledge and therapy will get that such changes are difficult but not impossible. (to learn about self knowledge try Daniel Mackler on YouTube for some very insightful and instructive, potentially life-changing videos.)

I see what she is saying; some people are seen as simply being unable to change... But all it takes is the right approach, and for the person trying to change to truly understand that it will be difficult and to very much want to improve themselves. 2 + 1 ≠ 2

Maybe Helen is one of those 'unchangeable' people but judging from what we've seen I don't believe so.

There is also the fact that she judges everyone's behaviour (from past episodes that I've seen her talk on) on the merit that they are not even humans but animals, or base tribal morons of some other reductionistic sort. She doesn't address the nuance and the more personal aspects of people's psyches. Maybe I am a bit off-point here as I have not seen her talk in a few weeks.

And I must add, that she has some pretty damn interesting insights, but then seems to undo them with a completely weird left-field comment which doesn't make any sense. Her conclusions tend to come from an assumption that people's intent is generally negative, and that people always have alterior motives, which has become too predictable to be based off of any kind of nuanced and balanced perspective.

[LukeB]

Axe judi james

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Bedouin

Judi James is not a psychotherapist; she is some kind of a 'body language expert' which is pretty far off of being able to have a truly deep and insightful understanding of the human condition.

This is evidenced not only by her qualification but also her lack of compassion and, by the sounds of it, her patently untrue statement that Helen will be unable to change. Anyone who understands self knowledge and therapy will get that such changes are difficult but not impossible. (to learn about self knowledge try Daniel Mackler on YouTube for some very insightful and instructive, potentially life-changing videos.)

I see what she is saying; some people are seen as simply being unable to change... But all it takes is the right approach, and for the person trying to change to truly understand that it will be difficult and to very much want to improve themselves. 2 + 1 ≠ 2

Maybe Helen is one of those 'unchangeable' people but judging from what we've seen I don't believe so.

There is also the fact that she judges everyone's behaviour (from past episodes that I've seen her talk on) on the merit that they are not even humans but animals, or base tribal morons of some other reductionistic sort. She doesn't address the nuance and the more personal aspects of people's psyches. Maybe I am a bit off-point here as I have not seen her talk in a few weeks.

And I must add, that she has some pretty damn interesting insights, but then seems to undo them with a completely weird left-field comment which doesn't make any sense. Her conclusions tend to come from an assumption that people's intent is generally negative, and that people always have alterior motives, which has become too predictable to be based off of any kind of nuanced and balanced perspective.

Very balanced post

Did not like the word "runts" for the uncool group either.

[debee]

Well put Bedouin.

[vesavius]

Judy James is a paid shill... A gob piece that is just there to push whatever the current BB agenda happens to be.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

the complete obvious about Chris, he has a crush on Ashleigh (theyre paying her for this stuff, when they could get that info on here for free)

and she said that Helen couldnt change and that she would always be nasty and that she is playing nice cause she can see the final

I can understand the forum users who hate Helen saying that, I would too if I didnt like her, but a professional (supposed) saying she cant change??

Im betting she got her diploma on the internet.....

She didn't actually say that, what she said was that she didn't feel like Helen has changed because nothing in there would have made her feel the need to. That her bad behaviour has been rewarded by the other HMs so she doesn't feel this change she's trying to portray is real

Infact she did actually specifically say "I'm not saying people can't change"

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Axe judi james

Axe the lot of them for me, the only one I find interesting is the 'dancing body language' guy.
He's on bbbots tonight I think.

[the truth]

her way of thinking or lack of is in fact profoundly dangerous. she puts people in a box prejudges everyone in the most basic slightly discriminatory way

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

her way of thinking or lack of is in fact profoundly dangerous. she puts people in a box prejudges everyone in the most basic slightly discriminatory way

Which in her profession as to having any credibility at all, she shouldn't do.
Well said the truth.

[VanessaFeltz.]

People can change and i am sick of chris haters now. Like stop.