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Old 04-08-2014, 03:16 PM #1
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He is the dark horse and has been for weeks. Nobody ever says "Ash could win". I've said seen anyone mention him at all.
1. He survived against Matthew when he was 1/20 to be evicted. The Ash fanbase saved Ash by evicting Matthew.
2. Ash is more popular now than he was back then.
3. Ash has a fanbase and it is real.
4. If Helen is evicted 5th/4th, a fair amount of Helen fans will give Ash a few votes, increasing his fanbase even further.
5. He won the viral video task by a considerable margin. The majority of likes may well have been from neutrals, but how many were from Ash fans? We don't know. Ashleigh and Winston got the 2nd highest amount of likes. Majority of likes for Ashleigh were from her fans, because her video was cute, but not great. Winston got less despite his video being funny.
6. I find it odd that over past few weeks everyone is saying Winston, Winston, because he is funny at times, but Ash has been just as funny over past few weeks. Why Winston but not Ash from the "alphas"?
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He won't win....laid back...nice looking but just been Helens lapdog from week 1.
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When he starts polling above 5%

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U having a Laff !! I have more chance of winning and that is
nil, zero !!

Come on get real !!
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When he starts polling above 5%
Compare him to Winston again, Winston isn't polling well yet is fave with Ashleigh and Christopher with bookies
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Matthew was evicted mostly due to Ashleigh.
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He is the dark horse and has been for weeks. Nobody ever says "Ash could win". I've said seen anyone mention him at all.
1. He survived against Matthew when he was 1/20 to be evicted. The Ash fanbase saved Ash by evicting Matthew.
2. Ash is more popular now than he was back then.
3. Ash has a fanbase and it is real.
4. If Helen is evicted 5th/4th, a fair amount of Helen fans will give Ash a few votes, increasing his fanbase even further.
5. He won the viral video task by a considerable margin. The majority of likes may well have been from neutrals, but how many were from Ash fans? We don't know. Ashleigh and Winston got the 2nd highest amount of likes. Majority of likes for Ashleigh were from her fans, because her video was cute, but not great. Winston got less despite his video being funny.
6. I find it odd that over past few weeks everyone is saying Winston, Winston, because he is funny at times, but Ash has been just as funny over past few weeks. Why Winston but not Ash from the "alphas"?
I think Ash has a lot of supporters they are just not so verbal,he could easily sneak up when least expected and snatch that crown
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Smudgie normally says Ash could win.

I can't see it myself but it would be good if he did IMO
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I think Ash has a lot of supporters they are just not so verbal,he could easily sneak up when least expected and snatch that crown
When being objective we can agree on things.
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Compare him to Winston again, Winston isn't polling well yet is fave with Ashleigh and Christopher with bookies
Winston's polling double that on tellymix.

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Smudgie normally says Ash could win.

I can't see it myself but it would be good if he did IMO
I'de be happy for Ash to win,he's as worthy of anyone else in there.
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Hes in my top 3 for winning but I think his connection with Helen will let him down. Most people would rather he won than Winston though.
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Winston's polling double that on tellymix.
You seem to think the polls stand for everything when they are really a minority of the viewing public not to mention the actual voters.
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In the final it is all down to

Number of fans x average number of votes per fan = TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES

Housemate A has 20,000 fans who vote on average 5 times each = 100,000 total vote count.

Housemate B has 10,000 fans who vote on average 20 times each = 200,000 total vote count.

Housemate C has 40,000 fans who vote on average 2 times each = 80,000 total vote count.


It is not just a case of who has the most fans.
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Sadly for Ash i think he fits into that category of HM that slips through the net

He is ok sure enough but he doesn't inspire enough passion of love or hate in the viewer

So i don't think he'll pick up many votes to win as he is more 'liked' than 'loved'

Neither will he pick up the 'anti vote' in the vein of Aaron, Speidi or Dexter as he is not a love/hate figure either. This is where Helen will do better than Ash in the final running i think.

5 years from now when you try and remember all the BB contestants from 2014, Ash will be one of the ones you remember last. Nothing bad on the guy but he is just one of those HMs you will end up going 'oh yeah i forgot about him!'
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You seem to think the polls stand for everything when they are really a minority of the viewing public not to mention the actual voters.
They've been a reasonably good indicator over the years. Sam was topping both tellymix and BB Spy last year. Charlotte was still topping many of them. Jim Davidson was miles clear (with Luisa's support being overstated). The only one they got wrong was Deana, but that was when DS went a bit crazy with her.

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I think Ash has a lot of supporters they are just not so verbal,he could easily sneak up when least expected and snatch that crown
What odds would you like ?? He has 2 chances .... slim & none 😄😄😄
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Q1. How many fans does Ash have?
Q2. How many fans does Ashleigh have?
Q3. What will be the average number of votes from each Ash fan?
Q4. What will be the average number of votes from each Ashleigh fan?

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What odds would you like ?? He has 2 chances .... slim & none 😄😄😄
His odds are excellent for a dark horse. He is 35/1 at the moment on Betfair.
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Q1. How many fans does Ash have?
Q2. How many fans does Ashleigh have?
Q3. What will be the average number of votes from each Ash fan?
Q4. What will be the average number of votes from each Ashleigh fan?

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His odds are excellent for a dark horse. He is 35/1 at the moment on Betfair.
If he was a dark horse - but he ain't he's just a boring git that made up the numbers - total no hoper as he's done very little , and he'll have the excuse that being friend's with Helen ruined his chance ! but thats the only reason he's still there. He is sooo boring

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