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Yes, he has served his time & should be allowed to return to society as normal | 24 | 47.06% | ||||
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No, it would be a bad example & he should not be allowed to play football professionally again | 26 | 50.98% | ||||
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16-10-2014, 10:14 AM | #1 | |||
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He was convicted on a 5 year sentence in April 2012 and will be released this week.
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16-10-2014, 10:27 AM | #2 | ||
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I can see it from both sides of the argument. It sends a bad message to re-sign him but what is the point in the prison system if it prevents someone who has successfully completed a prison term from contributing to society? It's certainly a deterrent to reformation if ex-cons aren't given the chance to prove themselves.
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16-10-2014, 10:33 AM | #3 | |||
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If he's served his time that's that i suppose. Should he be allowed to have any job anywhere eve again? being a football player is no different to any other job. should he be allowed to work at Tesco?
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16-10-2014, 10:34 AM | #4 | |||
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16-10-2014, 10:53 AM | #5 | |||
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I think he should be allowed back, he's served his time, no need to punish the man for the rest of his life. His crime had nothing to do with his ability to play football. The thing he was convicted for is such a grey area anyway; it's as easy to imagine he took advantage of a drunk girl as it is to imagine they were both drunk, had sex and then she later claimed rape.
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16-10-2014, 10:54 AM | #6 | |||
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What's the point of making someone serve a sentence as punishment if the punishment is actually going to go on forever. If he is not allowed to return to his job, whatever that job may be, that will surely affect others who have served jail time, paid for their crime and then continued to be punished after they're released.
The exception would obviously be for people who have been convicted of crimes against children, they should obviously not be allowed to work with children ever again. |
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16-10-2014, 10:59 AM | #7 | |||
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16-10-2014, 11:01 AM | #8 | |||
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16-10-2014, 11:11 AM | #9 | |||
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The peoples princesses
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Totally, he's served his time.
Plus what message are we sending out saying that people that have served their time shouldn't return to their full time job and bring in taxes? Rather a rapist earn his own money (and add thousands to the tax system) than claim benefits for the rest of his life. |
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16-10-2014, 01:20 PM | #10 | |||
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Nope. His job elevates him to a celebrity of sorts, his face could be in a paper somewhere and his victim sees it by accident. He should be allowed a job back in conjunction with football but not the one he had, keep him in the background.
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16-10-2014, 01:24 PM | #11 | |||
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Considering what we now know about the celebrities of the 80's and 90's on british TV, if you tried to keep all the sex offenders off you might as well just make TV illegal. Hell maybe we should just throw acid in everyone's eyes, blind the public just to make sure they don't see anything offensive.
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16-10-2014, 01:29 PM | #12 | |||
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The argument against seems to be about him being a role model for kids. Surely kids take no interest in the players criminal past even if they were made aware and could actually comprehend what he did?
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16-10-2014, 01:40 PM | #13 | |||
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Because generally, footballers are suitable role models?
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16-10-2014, 01:57 PM | #14 | |||
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Sportsmen and women are ambassadors of sorts and they are looked up to, they always have been seen as positive role models. This would send out a very odd message imo.
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16-10-2014, 02:18 PM | #15 | |||
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so maybe we should stop the media from propping up sports stars as heroes, ever consider that? maybe we should prop up scientists as heroes, is that crazy?
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16-10-2014, 02:27 PM | #16 | |||
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The role model bit comes on the pitch not off it. |
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16-10-2014, 02:50 PM | #17 | |||
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16-10-2014, 02:58 PM | #18 | ||
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He's served his time, time to move on. The pitch fork feminazis are actually makeing me feel sorry for Ched.
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16-10-2014, 03:01 PM | #19 | |||
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I've considered the thread topic, and commented on that.
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16-10-2014, 03:04 PM | #20 | |||
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Mmm its a tough one this. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act is there to protect people who have committed a crime, served their sentence and want to return a workplace. There are few places where, had he not been famous, he would have had to declare this sentence unless he was applying for a position that is exempt from the Act - the Forces, NHS, Police, working with certain categories of people - children, vulnerable adults etc and so is it fair that once rehabilitated by prison the very nature of who he is not what he did should stop him from returning to his previous career? It wouldn't stop other people and his name will be forever tarnished and maybe if he is allowed to return it will show young offenders that if you do do your time and keep your nose clean, your life doesn't have to stop forever. I know people will jump on me for that because the victims life has been affected forever but he has been punished and undertaken the sentence as declared by the court......
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16-10-2014, 03:13 PM | #21 | |||
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No. **** him.
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16-10-2014, 03:14 PM | #22 | |||
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16-10-2014, 04:38 PM | #23 | |||
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Fact is really that for all their public prominence sports stars often aren't great people, and shouldn't be expected to be squeaky clean role models for kids to look up to. Evans would not be alone in continuing his career after a serious crime, at Forest Green one of our star strikers Lee Hughes did three years for death by dangerous driving. Over in the states the NFL has got all sorts of scumbags still playing; you'll find them in most sports if not on the same scale.
The nature of his career means he's sort of in the public eye (though at the very best he'd be returning to a League 1 club) but I don't think that alone is reason to heap extra punishment on him once he's served his sentence. Leave it as a moral decision for any club who might want to sign him but don't physically bar him from football completely. Last edited by MTVN; 16-10-2014 at 04:39 PM. |
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16-10-2014, 05:32 PM | #24 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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Footballers think that they can get away with whatever they want to, they need to use him as an example and ban him as his life should be affected forever after what he did to that girl, and it would teach other Footballers a lesson not to make the same mistake that Ched Evans made.
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16-10-2014, 05:44 PM | #25 | |||
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I do agree that footballers should be taken down a few pegs, but that's the job of the league and the media, you can't do it by just punishing this one person. He shouldn't be made a scapegoat for all of the problems in our sport and media culture.
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