[GoldHeart]

put yourself in Edwina's shoes yes she's opinionated and has that political vibe in her but if you were her and all you did was speak out about an opinion you had . how would you feel if you were told to shut the f up!!! and that your a piece of sh** ???? it shouldn't matter that you weren't apart of the conversation Kendra was way out of line!!! and made herself look unstable

because the way i see it Edwina held herself with grace and people can say she butted in and was random but she was never insulting and never even raised her voice and what does she get back in return no support and a mouth full of verbal abuse from a insecure american troll who has soo many issues she's a therapist's dream
she shouted her head off like the nasty weirdo she is and edwina still looked
calm & mature . she thinks she can dominate everyone including Edwina she's met her match

just because edwina didn't cry she's considered hard? why should everybody agree with Kendra the world doesn't revolve around her like she thinks
she cries like a little bit** and people run around after her paying her all the attention she craves desperately .

Edwina was the only one who had the bottle to stand up to her and i have respect for her
the rest are just scared wimps , how can they all side with Kendra
and a few of them are such fence sitters , so now i really couldn't care less who wins the show

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

put yourself in Edwina's shoes yes she's opinionated and has that political vibe in her but if you were her and all you did was speak out about an opinion you had . how would you feel if you were told to shut the f up!!! and that your a piece of sh** ???? it shouldn't matter that you weren't apart of the conversation Kendra was way out of line!!! and made herself look unstable

because the way i see it Edwina held herself with grace and people can say she butted in and was random but she was never insulting and never even raised her voice and what does she get back in return no support and a mouth full of verbal abuse from a insecure american troll who has soo many issues she's a therapist's dream
she shouted her head off like a crazy weirdo and edwina still looked
calm & mature . she thinks she can dominate everyone including Edwina she's met her match


just because edwina didn't cry she's considered hard? why should everybody agree with Kendra the world doesn't revolve around her like she thinks
she cries like a little bit** and people run around after her paying her all the attention she craves desperately .

Edwina was the only one who had the bottle to stand up to her and i have respect for her
the rest are just scared wimps , how can they all side with Kendra
and a few of them are such fence sitters , so now i really couldn't care less who wins the show

Edwina is not young,fit and pretty simple as GoldHeart , Kendra showed herself up to be the ill mannered ,self obsessed twonk she is.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Kendra has a fit because Edwina did not swallow her 2 cent drug store self help bs

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Edwina is not young,fit and pretty simple as GoldHeart , Kendra showed herself up to be the ill mannered ,self obsessed twonk she is.

she's not even pretty!! but yeah the world is superficial!
and if Kendra was a fat old man i bet nobody would have sympathy

she acts like she's the best thing ever! and expects people to fuss around her like she's an important valuable person when really she's an attention seeking tramp! she called edwina heartless but she herself behaves that way by insulting people for no reason

[Liam-]

I love Kendra and her attitude

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

put yourself in Edwina's shoes yes she's opinionated and has that political vibe in her but if you were her and all you did was speak out about an opinion you had . how would you feel if you were told to shut the f up!!! and that your a piece of sh** ???? it shouldn't matter that you weren't apart of the conversation Kendra was way out of line!!! and made herself look unstable

because the way i see it Edwina held herself with grace and people can say she butted in and was random but she was never insulting and never even raised her voice and what does she get back in return no support and a mouth full of verbal abuse from a insecure american troll who has soo many issues she's a therapist's dream
she shouted her head off like the nasty weirdo she is and edwina still looked
calm & mature . she thinks she can dominate everyone including Edwina she's met her match

just because edwina didn't cry she's considered hard? why should everybody agree with Kendra the world doesn't revolve around her like she thinks
she cries like a little bit** and people run around after her paying her all the attention she craves desperately .

Edwina was the only one who had the bottle to stand up to her and i have respect for her
the rest are just scared wimps , how can they all side with Kendra
and a few of them are such fence sitters , so now i really couldn't care less who wins the show

I disagree, I thought her input was inciteful and goading, it's frustrating when someone comes and claims the moral high ground without the grace to back up their opinion.
It was an unnecessary rebuke because as we know in edwinas personal or professional life she you could bet she's never put anyone first.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I disagree, I thought her input was inciteful and goading, it's frustrating when someone comes and claims the moral high ground without the grace to back up their opinion.
It was an unnecessary rebuke because as we know in edwinas personal or professional life she you could bet she's never put anyone first.

I agree, even all the other camp mates who were involved in the conversation tried to explain to Edwina that she misunderstood what Kendra was saying

having said that though kendra did go over the top in her reaction to it

[sampvt]

Kendra has a sluttish attitude to life mainly due to her past experiences in reality tv that she is well attuned to. Edwina could see that Kendra was holding centre stage and hogging the tv time so she decided that she would clip Kendras wings. Kendras retort was forced and calculated and made her look trampish. Edwinas retort was calculated but a little contrived so they were both wrong but on reflection, they are both working to a pre set game plan which has tv time as the primary objective.

[Liam-]

The only thing Kendra did wrong was the swearing and her aggression in defending herself.

If she just stayed calm and laughed off Edwina's blatant attempt at winding her up, she would have made Edwina look even more pathetic than she made herself look.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I love Kendra and her attitude

ohhhh yea rite great role model telling someone who's more intelligent and older than her to shut the f up and that they're a piece of sh** kids can really identify with her
what makes this worse is she's a grown woman going into an angry strop
over nothing like what a child that doesn't gets sweets would do!!
she thinks shes glamorous and above the rest when really she's the beneath everyone in the jungle she's dirty and foul

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

ohhhh yea rite great role model telling someone who's more intelligent and older than her to shut the f up and that they're a piece of sh** kids can really identify with her
what makes this worse is she's a grown woman going into an angry strop
over nothing like what a child that doesn't gets sweets would do!!
she thinks shes glamorous and above the rest when really she's the beneath everyone in the jungle she's dirty and foul

What has someone's intelligence and age got to do with anything? If someone is rude to me i don't care how old they are i would defend myself.

And no-one is better than anyone in there, they're all in there for the same reason, exposure or money, they're all in the same boat, there's no room for superiority complexes in the jungle, unfortunately it seems that Edwina has a massive one, which will work against her in the long run if she keeps jumping up onto her high horse.. which really isn't all that high in reality.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I love Kendra and her attitude

I like her too, but i wish she was a bit braver in the trials.

[LeatherTrumpet]

anyone who goes into the disgusting playboy house is has no respect from me

she is a fame*****

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

What has someone's intelligence and age got to do with anything? If someone is rude to me i don't care how old they are i would defend myself.

And no-one is better than anyone in there, they're all in there for the same reason, exposure or money, they're all in the same boat, there's no room for superiority complexes in the jungle, unfortunately it seems that Edwina has a massive one, which will work against her in the long run if she keeps jumping up onto her high horse.. which really isn't all that high in reality.

Your first paragraph says it all. No wonder the country is going down the pan.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Your first paragraph says it all. No wonder the country is going down the pan.

Umm why exactly?.. Do older people have a hall pass to be rude to whoever they want? because they don't in my world, rudeness is rudeness no matter who it comes from

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Umm why exactly?.. Do older people have a hall pass to be rude to whoever they want? because they don't in my world, rudeness is rudeness no matter who it comes from

Boom, and the second shot hits you in the other foot, carry on. If you cant see whats the matter with your statement, it proves my point.

[Liam-]

No I can't see what's wrong with my statement and i don't really see what point you're trying to make either, please enlighten me since there's something you obviously want to say.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

What has someone's intelligence and age got to do with anything? If someone is rude to me i don't care how old they are i would defend myself.

And no-one is better than anyone in there, they're all in there for the same reason, exposure or money, they're all in the same boat, there's no room for superiority complexes in the jungle, unfortunately it seems that Edwina has a massive one, which will work against her in the long run if she keeps jumping up onto her high horse.. which really isn't all that high in reality.

age shouldn't matter but in this case it does because she's trying to dominate Edwina like she's some little girl when she's a grown older woman thats seen the real world

but in Kendra's little head what says goes then?

why is it ok for Kendra to act like she's better than everyone then???
Kendra throws her weight around like she's the superior one to others and they must follow her around like lap dogs . edwina says what she wants but doesn't expect a crowd of nodding people to kiss her arse wheareas Kendra does

michael burke is feeding her ego "im not deserting you i find this all fascinating i will be back " kendra's response "yeah im loving it" says it all

if she was a decent person with half a brain she would of brushed off Edwina's opinion in a ladylike way or just agreed to dissagreed instead of this ridiculous explosion she had to take centre stage

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

No I can't see what's wrong with my statement and i don't really see what point you're trying to make either, please enlighten me since there's something you obviously want to say.

If you insist I will explain but no doubt your blinkers will avoid comprehension....

Edwina was wrong to intervene in an argument she had nothing to do with so she was IGNORANT, NOT RUDE.

Kendra showered an elderly person with uncalled for profanities and a tirade of nasty rhetoric and venomous stares, THAT WAS RUDE.

Ignorance is a trait of the elderly due to diminished brain cells and age related issues.

Rudeness is a particular trait that is strongly placed in the domain of the young in todays dumbed down society, something old farts like me find extremely annoying and generally uncalled for.

Hopefully this will go part way to explaining what your parents should have taught you anyway.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

If you insist I will explain but no doubt your blinkers will avoid comprehension....

Edwina was wrong to intervene in an argument she had nothing to do with so she was IGNORANT, NOT RUDE.

Kendra showered an elderly person with uncalled for profanities and a tirade of nasty rhetoric and venomous stares, THAT WAS RUDE.

Ignorance is a trait of the elderly due to diminished brain cells and age related issues.

Rudeness is a particular trait that is strongly placed in the domain of the young in todays dumbed down society, something old farts like me find extremely annoying and generally uncalled for.

Hopefully this will go part way to explaining what your parents should have taught you anyway.

And that one sentence has completely thrown your argument out the window in a matter of seconds and has backed up mine.

What is is you said? 'Boom'?

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

And that one sentence has completely thrown your argument out the window in a matter of seconds and has backed up mine.

What is is you said? 'Boom'?

I think the fact that you choose to bait and malign me proves my point now please move on, neither of us are on topic.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I think the fact that you choose to bait and malign me proves my point now please move on, neither of us are on topic.

How was i baiting you?

I was simply proving a point, that not all older people like Edwina deserve automatic respect or pedestals, your comment about my parents skills of raising me simply helped me verify that.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

How was i baiting you?

I was simply proving a point, that not all older people like Edwina deserve automatic respect or pedestals, your comment about my parents skills of raising me simply helped me verify that.

LiamPRW you can defend Kendra all you want
but your a hypocrite and you contradict yourself
you say Edwina is this and that but what is Kendra then for swearing and shouting? that is why Edwina is the better person because she fought her corner in a dignified way instead of blubbering like a baby and screaming abuse , it just shows Kendra is too immature to put her point across and instead she has to belittle people and disrespect them

[Liam-]

I've already said Kendra was wrong for the way she defended herself

But that doesn't make Edwina right in any sort of way.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I've already said Kendra was wrong for the way she defended herself

you say you love kendra and her attitude
why does Edwina have to bear the brunt of the argument?
just because she wasn't part of the conversation? she didn't once swear or call Kendra a name . you may find Edwina condescending but i have a feeling if it was Jake that disagreed with her she wouldn't of reacted soo badly

and im pretty sure seen as people wrongly blame Edwina for this stupid argument she will most likely be the first 1 evicted now even though it should be Kendra