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19-12-2014, 03:27 PM | #1 | |||
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but there is a now backlash of Chinese that are angry with the banned word [Nigel Farage has said he feels sorry for a UKIP candidate who was forced to step down after being recorded using derogatory terms about homosexuals and Chinese people. The politician described Kerry Smith, a parliamentary hopeful in one of UKIP's strongest constituencies, as a "rough diamond" who fell victim to London snobbery over colloquial language.] http://news.sky.com/story/1394788/fa...s-chinese-slur should be good on Ch4HD News at 7PM Last edited by arista; 19-12-2014 at 03:31 PM. |
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19-12-2014, 04:22 PM | #2 | |||
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people need to stop picking on Nigel and UKIP, it's just starting to sound pedantic now.
It's defeating their purpose. they are just making him seem like a victim. They go to such extremes of language, they want to make it seem like he goes out at night murdering black or chinese babies.
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19-12-2014, 04:58 PM | #3 | |||
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Didn't he say something like "he's a diamond in the rough, like most in the east end"? how insulting.
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19-12-2014, 07:08 PM | #4 | ||
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This is the price of being under the spotlight more in UK politics.
Nigel Farage is going to have to get used to it probably, because I think it is likely he is going to have to address some of the more unsavoury characters in his party,who are either saying only what they themselves think, or are possibly more worrying,revealing the hidden agenda and sinister thinking of the UKIP set up as a whole. |
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19-12-2014, 07:12 PM | #5 | |||
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I do wish the anti-UKIP stories we see an abundance of were to do with their policies rather than what some nobody councillor might've said in what he thought was private. All these "omg they're racist!" stories do - even if they are accurate - is alienate people from the left.
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19-12-2014, 07:17 PM | #6 | |||
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19-12-2014, 11:28 PM | #7 | |||
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Anyone remember when Gordon Brown called that old bigot a bigot?... He was pilloried, everyone in politics has to watch what they say, I think that's the moral here.
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20-12-2014, 05:49 AM | #8 | |||
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Oh what a storm in a tea cup.
"I was fecking starving last night lads. I was like one of them tanks in Tiananmen Square - I could have murdered a fecking chinky" Roy 'Chubby' Brown' to a packed audience - all who collapsed in fits of laughter. Was this an audience of 3,000 racists? Was it feck. It was a broad cross section of British society - including a few Chinese who also creased up. 'Poofter' - Not since the grand old days of 'Are You Being Served' with its OTT mincing of John Inman have terms like '****' and 'Poofter' been used in any kind of connotation with male 'Gay' people, so what decade is this UKIP cream bun living in? None of my 'Gay' friends would be upset by being called a 'poofter' - even directly. The truth is, they'd probably laugh in disbelief, then 'round' on the user of such a word and overwhelm him him with the wittiest, caustic and most withering of retorts which would leave him humiliated, speechless, and looking very much like the idiot ignoramus he is. Yes - this chump is not the caliber of person we want in politics, or the police, or any other 'official' position, but let's not all rush to the typewriter to dash off 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' type letters of protest to the 'Times', because it's all a 'storm in a teacup' and it does appear that - typically - his remarks have been selectively taken out of context, and is being blown up out of all proportion by people of other political persuasions. People of all political persuasions, all colours, creeds and 'class' do use such words in everyday conversation. It's not necessarily 'racist' or 'homophobic' - in fact, it's more likely not to be - and Farage is correct when he intimates that most of us say; 'Do you fancy a Chinky?' when referring to a Chinese take-away. Personally, with all the serious mind-numbing murders, bombings, be-headings and other crap going off in the world, I'm sick of trivial B.S. being blown up out of all proportion by P.C. twats.
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20-12-2014, 07:18 AM | #9 | |||
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20-12-2014, 09:12 AM | #10 | ||
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The majority of people where i live say things like 'I'm off for chinky tonight' or 'Just nipping out to't p*ki shop'.That's what people have always said and the majority of people i know are definately not racist and i hear people of all back grounds saying these things regularly. |
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20-12-2014, 09:12 AM | #11 | |||
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20-12-2014, 09:14 AM | #12 | ||
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Loads of people I know still say 'I fancy a chinkies'
I dont think they mean it to be racist or anything. Though knowing its a slur should stop most from saying it |
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20-12-2014, 09:46 AM | #13 | |||
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Woe the day, when a PC minority in a democracy can prevent the majority from having the freedom of choice of what to read, listen to, or watch, as well as whether to go to a church of our choosing, or watch our kids in a school Nativity' play, visit lap-dancing clubs, brothels or whack ourselves on our bare buttocks with a wet kipper in the privacy of our own bedrooms while reciting the soliloquy from Hamlet, should we choose to. Anyway, here are just a few links disproving your statement: Controversial comic Roy Chubby Brown ready for sold out ... http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/.../1..._comic_Roy_Chu... 24 Oct 2014 - Roy Chubby Brown has been making audiences laugh for 46 years ... Speaking ahead of tonight's return to Bolton, he said: “I'm quite chuffed, they just told me it's sold out. ... http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/....funnyman-roy-c... 31 Jul 2014 - CONTROVERSIAL comic Roy Chubby Brown has promised to turn the air ... 70 but is still selling out venues up and down the UK, releasing top-selling ... Roy 'Chubby' Brown - SOLD OUT - Gloucester City Council venues.gloucester.gov.uk/Freetime/Guildhall/.../roychubbybrown.aspx 1 Aug 2014 - He's still rude, he's still crude and this time he's turning headlines into punch lines as ... so close to the mark, even the most seasoned of fans will be left gob-smacked! ... Roy Chubby Brown returns with his meatiest show yet!
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20-12-2014, 09:58 AM | #14 | |||
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I did state the brand of humour, not him personally.. there was a swathe of 'comedians' in the 70s and 80s that relied on mother in law jokes and references to p*kis and chinkies, thank goodness they are now in the minority.
It's not a question of what's PC but what is respectful, yes some still find funny but not as many. Not sure why you align this view with the nativity and porn issues that are in no way linked.
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20-12-2014, 10:36 AM | #15 | |||
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In the same way, the PC minority are vociferously campaigning against porn, brothels, certain films etc, and also campaigning to have innocuous words such as; 'Chairman' changed to 'Chairperson', the labeling of 'Boys' and Girls' toys abandoned by retailers, and even phrases such as 'White Christmas' changed to 'Snowy Christmas' and terms such as 'Blackout' banned. It's all madness, but effective madness nonetheless, because such campaigning is being very successful. It is also a steady erosion of personal freedom. I genuinely don't watch porn films, or visit lap-dancing clubs, or pay to see Chubby Brown, but I have no desire to strip away anyone else's personal freedom to do so if he so wishes. Isn't Sony's capitulation with 'The Interview' just yet another example of the minority forcing their will and denying the majority from having the freedom of choice of whether to see this film or not?
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20-12-2014, 10:55 AM | #16 | |||
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The issue in discussion is the UKIP members indiscretion no other sociopolitical issues, my opinion on that is that he was wrong and deserved to be expected to stand down.
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20-12-2014, 11:59 AM | #17 | |||
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I dont know anyone who says 'Off for a chinky' anymore. I think this kind of language is out of date. As are the people who talk like this
The scrutiny Ukip are under is completely justified. Their policies are virtually non-existent so we can only go by the caliber of people they want to put in office and if this is an example then they must never get any power
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20-12-2014, 12:10 PM | #18 | |||
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20-12-2014, 12:19 PM | #19 | |||
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20-12-2014, 12:31 PM | #21 | |||
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I live in the north and we don't say it now, we did years ago probably
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20-12-2014, 12:32 PM | #22 | |||
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This. I know people who used to talk like this but I dont hear that expression anymore.
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20-12-2014, 01:17 PM | #23 | ||
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yet more drivel from the radical liberals who took over this country under new labour and banned free speech with their mental politically correct drivel.
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20-12-2014, 03:19 PM | #24 | ||
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I also hear 'off for a chink' more often than 'off for a chinese' tbh.I am also in the north.
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20-12-2014, 03:34 PM | #25 | |||
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Well said Truth.
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