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Old 28-01-2015, 12:00 PM #1
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What do you think? Who is right? Katie Price or Katie Hopkins? I'm with Pricey on this. She pays her taxes and is entitled to help.
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yes also debated on Ch5HD AM

because she is paying her taxes
it seems fine
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Katie Price pays her taxes and as such is entitled to make use of the NHS and get help for her disabled son from the government.

As far as I know help for disabled children is not means tested so why on earth should she be discriminated against.
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She is as deserving of the service as the next.
She pays more tax than most of us, so she is paying more into the system to start with.
She fought for two years to get a school built nearer home, not just for Harvey, for all disabled kids in the region.

The shame of this story is that a young child has to travel to and from school in a three hour return journey in a taxi.

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Katie Price pays her taxes and as such is entitled to make use of the NHS and get help for her disabled son from the government.

As far as I know help for disabled children is not means tested so why on earth should she be discriminated against.


Katie H is completely wrong on this issue.
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The mere fact that nobody is looking at this debate correctly is sad. There are facilities that she could use closer to home BUT SHE CHOSE TO SEND HIM TO THE BEST, MILES AWAY.

Nothing against a mother wanting the best for her kid, but whilst she is rich and the others in her borough are poor, she gets preferential treatment because of who she is and the poor have to make do with what the government offer, but the poor pay taxes as well. So where is the fairness in that.

They conveniently overlooked that little fact and I personally believe that if she chooses not to accept whats on offer to her and the rest of the poor people, then she should pay if she goes for the upgraded version. I doubt anyone else in her manor with disabled children are being offered that funding, ortherwise all the schools in her area would close.

Out of all those tweets, are they telling us that not one person raised this idea. The loose women disguised this as a slant on their own girls enemy. Very clever but very dumb as well.
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The mere fact that nobody is looking at this debate correctly is sad. There are facilities that she could use closer to home BUT SHE CHOSE TO SEND HIM TO THE BEST, MILES AWAY.

Nothing against a mother wanting the best for her kid, but whilst she is rich and the others in her borough are poor, she gets preferential treatment because of who she is and the poor have to make do with what the government offer, but the poor pay taxes as well. So where is the fairness in that.

They conveniently overlooked that little fact and I personally believe that if she chooses not to accept whats on offer to her and the rest of the poor people, then she should pay if she goes for the upgraded version. I doubt anyone else in her manor with disabled children are being offered that funding, ortherwise all the schools in her area would close.

Out of all those tweets, are they telling us that not one person raised this idea. The loose women disguised this as a slant on their own girls enemy. Very clever but very dumb as well.
Completely agree
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Katie Price pays her taxes and as such is entitled to make use of the NHS and get help for her disabled son from the government.

As far as I know help for disabled children is not means tested so why on earth should she be discriminated against.
Exactly and also the entitlement is the child's. He is as entitled to the same help as any other child regardless of his parents and any wealth they have. I don't think his care is anyones business. We have no idea what his individual needs are and whether or not they might be met in any other way closer to home and it isn't really any of our business.
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it a failure of the government and its idiotic rules....these matters should be means tested and a person with 40 million shouldn't get this paid for, end of
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The mere fact that nobody is looking at this debate correctly is sad. There are facilities that she could use closer to home BUT SHE CHOSE TO SEND HIM TO THE BEST, MILES AWAY.

Nothing against a mother wanting the best for her kid, but whilst she is rich and the others in her borough are poor, she gets preferential treatment because of who she is and the poor have to make do with what the government offer, but the poor pay taxes as well. So where is the fairness in that.

They conveniently overlooked that little fact and I personally believe that if she chooses not to accept whats on offer to her and the rest of the poor people, then she should pay if she goes for the upgraded version. I doubt anyone else in her manor with disabled children are being offered that funding, ortherwise all the schools in her area would close.

Out of all those tweets, are they telling us that not one person raised this idea. The loose women disguised this as a slant on their own girls enemy. Very clever but very dumb as well.

Harvey has been statemented, the name of the school he has to attend is named on the statement.
Not sure how much say or choice a parent has in this situation.
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The mere fact that nobody is looking at this debate correctly is sad. There are facilities that she could use closer to home BUT SHE CHOSE TO SEND HIM TO THE BEST, MILES AWAY.

Nothing against a mother wanting the best for her kid, but whilst she is rich and the others in her borough are poor, she gets preferential treatment because of who she is and the poor have to make do with what the government offer, but the poor pay taxes as well. So where is the fairness in that.

They conveniently overlooked that little fact and I personally believe that if she chooses not to accept whats on offer to her and the rest of the poor people, then she should pay if she goes for the upgraded version. I doubt anyone else in her manor with disabled children are being offered that funding, ortherwise all the schools in her area would close.

Out of all those tweets, are they telling us that not one person raised this idea. The loose women disguised this as a slant on their own girls enemy. Very clever but very dumb as well.
She fought for more than 2 years to get a school built closer to home not just for Harvey but for other disabled kids in that area so it's nothing to do with her wanting the BEST?

And she shouldn't pay for something that her and Harvey have a right to receive free.

She has also given millions to charities that support those causes.
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I have the same feeling as this last woman who is talking(don't know her) but she is spot on,IF Katie can afford it she should pay
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it a failure of the government and its idiotic rules....these matters should be means tested and a person with 40 million shouldn't get this paid for, end of
Yes, and in that case the rich people should also be given the choice of not paying into it then.

You really can't have your cake and eat it.

If people want to opt out and go private then that is up to them, but I don't see why they should have to when they have already paid up front once
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The government say she is entitled to disability living payments but i dont think it should cover the whole travelling expenses. She should be at least be contributing to that because it is her choice to send him to that school.
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If they opt out to go private, the parent should pay like the rest of us. My daughter wanted her son to be transported to his school by a proper vehicle as her car is a 2 door and she cant get his seat in the right way. She was offered a social fund loan to buy a different seat. \how can this be right.
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The government say she is entitled to disability living payments but i dont think it should cover the whole travelling expenses. She should be at least be contributing to that because it is her choice to send him to that school.
Harvey has been statemented, the statement will say which school he has to attend.
All the schools for the disabled have been shut locally, hence the lad has to travel so far away every day.
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Ive just done some research on this and it appears that Katie Price refused a state school and registered Harvey at a school 54 miles away of her own choice, it isn't the closest, its her choice and she gets special payments to cover everything. Why is she allowed to do this, we couldn't. maybe her lawyers are in this story but its wrong. Being statemented is only the naming of the school, not how it was chosen.
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If you google, one of the first results tells you that Harvey's School closed in 2014 and he had to be sent to one a lot further away.

It also goes into detail about Katie and her mum Amy petitioning the government along with parents of 45 other disabled children to get a new school opened in their area.
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I agree with the woman that said that if she herself was rich enough to pay for it,she would pay and the taxes she has paid in would help someone less fortunate and Katie missed a good chance to do that
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If you google, one of the first results tells you that Harvey's School closed in 2014 and he had to be sent to one a lot further away.

It also goes into detail about Katie and her mum Amy petitioning the government along with parents of 45 other disabled children to get a new school opened in their area.
She apparently applied for gov funding but it failed, she could build the dam school herself out of petty cash.
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She apparently applied for gov funding but it failed, she could build the dam school herself out of petty cash.
That doesn't mean she should though.

This all reeks of attacking someone for being well off imho.

Anyway, I think Katie Price does a great job raising Harvey, she only wants the best for her son and if the government states Harvey is entitled to the benefits then who is anyone else to say otherwise.
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She's entitled to it so she's not doing anything wrong legally speaking but I think it's crazy that she is entitled to it in the first place
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There are always 2 sides to these things. Do we know if the other 45 kids affected by this school closure are also being paid to go to this special school miles away. If they were, they could double up on the driver with a bus, and have 1 carer etc.

KP may well be entitled, but being entitled to something doesn't mean that you need to take it.


Anyway, I think it requires investigation to get the truth of the matter.
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I have the same feeling as this last woman who is talking(don't know her) but she is spot on,IF Katie can afford it she should pay
I am retired on pension but because my husband has an extra pension we could not get free school dinners for our two grandchildren whom we took to live with us due to family split up. We cannot get extra help for the eldest one who is now in college so we have to pay for tools and trips. We cannot get help for the younger ones with school trips etc. etc. We paid our taxes all our working lives and still pay a certain amount on the pension. We are therefore means tested and not the "children".

Katie P is rich, she has wasted a lot of money on so called weddings etc. etc. Katie H was right to have the opinion she has that is her opinion and she owns it, each to their own. I agree with Katie H.
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She's entitled to it so she's not doing anything wrong legally speaking but I think it's crazy that she is entitled to it in the first place
It might sound crazy Niamh, but where would you draw the line.

Do we start means testing all services. Would someone earning £30 grand a year pay more to get a tooth out than someone earning £28 grand, might be a bit of an off it example but it keeps it simple.
The other side to it is, if everyone that can afford to go private did, imagine the waiting lists for us poor plebs that can't.

We all pay into the pot on what we earn, but we all get the same choices sounds much fairer.
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