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Old 14-05-2015, 05:26 AM #1
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Default Its like one big sick joke from the greedy selfish tory party

You couldnt make it up.

An equalities minister who voted against gay marriage.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10244478.html

A disability minister who voted against disability benefits.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10246049.html

A Culture secretary that hates British culture.



http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...n-whittingdale


It almost feels like the only missing piece of the puzzle is waiting for Cameron to announce his new Minister for Children and youth affairs.

OH WAIT HERE HE IS.





These scumbags make me feel sick. Oh England what have you done

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only 5 labour mps who voted against austerity

a leader who could not win after austerity

not one leader candidate who will have a chance in the next election

lost around 3 million votes to ukip


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How long do we have to wait after the election before any complaints about the abysmal government are not dismissed as "sour grapes"?
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How long do we have to wait after the election before any complaints about the abysmal government are not dismissed as "sour grapes"?
Probably when they're happy that their vote has led to enough people dying at the hands of ideological disability benefit cuts, enough people committing suicide due to increasing job insecurity and very little quality of life and enough people saddled with depression due to the misery they're going to endure
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How long do we have to wait after the election before any complaints about the abysmal government are not dismissed as "sour grapes"?
i reckon 3 weeks or so?

then it will just be the easy job of highlighting problems but offering no solutions

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Probably when they're happy that their vote has led to enough people dying at the hands of ideological disability benefit cuts, enough people committing suicide due to increasing job insecurity and very little quality of life and enough people saddled with depression due to the misery they're going to endure
That is a likely fact too Jack_, a very sad and devastating one indeed to be waiting to happen.
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Dinenage has said she is now in support of gay marriage. Trying to make out the Conservatives have some agenda against equal marriage doesn't work very well when they were the ones who introduced it.
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i reckon 3 weeks or so?

then it will just be the easy job of highlighting problems but offering no solutions

As opposed to cutting services for the most vulnerable that save a whopping Ł3.25 of the deficit.

It's not even a massive hyperbole. They make cuts that ruin thousands of lives but save a couple of million a year and have absolutely zero impact on the deficit. They implement punishing hoops for the worst off in society to jump through that actually cost MORE to implement that they save. These are not solutions. These are ideologies with precisely one purpose: to keep "common people" down where they belong.
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I'm just waiting for something that affects the tory massive as well as the rest of the country, it'll be interesting to see how they cope with the advice to simply suck it up.
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Oh and they then use the figures to dazzle a general public who don't understand money on a grand scale. "Cuts made saving British tax payers Ł15 million per year!!" the headlines scream. "Oh derp derp look at dem zeroes dat is a lot of money derp!" says Bobby tax payer.

Absolutely no understanding that in terms of government budgets and the deficit, Ł15million per year is for all intents and purposes, so close to zero that it's completely insignificant.
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Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish
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Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish


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Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish
Excuse me? Are you suggesting that anyone who disagrees with the status quo should just be thankful they don't live in a developing country?
That is a truly bizarre statement, we have a perfectly decent and prosperous country right here.... If some don't agree with regressive policies it's to be expected there will be opposition to them.
The people who ultimately look foolish are those who allow any govt to ride roughshod over rights.
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Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish
"don't complain there are people starving in Africa."

It's not a new argument but it's as weak and lame as it ever was. Mostly comes from people who are determined to support the establishment but can't actually find anything good to say.

"Why are you whining? We could be living in a nuclear apocalypse, coughing blood and tending our weeping tumors! Be happy with your lot!"

It makes about as much sense as:

"You were raped, you say? Well ma'am, SOME people are born into satanic rape cults and are raped and tortured every day! Go home be happy that you were only raped once!"
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What about these individuals.... Still happy?


'The new Conservative disabilities minister voted against protecting the benefits of disabled children and those undergoing cancer treatment.

But he did vote for the bedroom tax.'

Justin Tomlinson, MP for North Swindon, was promoted by David Cameron on Wednesday as part of the cabinet reshuffle.

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Dinenage has said she is now in support of gay marriage. Trying to make out the Conservatives have some agenda against equal marriage doesn't work very well when they were the ones who introduced it.
True,but with Lib Dem and Labour support too.
This was I do admit, one of David Cameron's better choices while in govt:
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Like most MPs I imagine Caroline Dineage voted in accordance with the wishes of her constituents. I don't see how that can now be used as a stick to beat her, any more than the Labour supporters would want us to remind them how few Labour MPs voted against austerity - like Trumpet said...
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You can't compare austerity to equal rights.
I think the concept of equalities is lost here, what constitutes as equality is not what a selection of the electorate from one geographical area want is it... As a minister governing the UK it should be based on the UK as a whole surely?
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Government policy will always lead to cases of unfairness to some individuals. It has happened with every government I have experienced (and that's a lot) The drama queens on here are just amazing. If you want to see genuine unfairness and hardship, look overseas, and get some experience of life because you are making yourselves look very foolish
Strangely enough "some individuals" are always the lower class.
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You can't compare austerity to equal rights.
I think the concept of equalities is lost here, what constitutes as equality is not what a selection of the electorate from one geographical area want is it... As a minister governing the UK it should be based on the UK as a whole surely?
One shouldn't, I agree with that.

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the tory party like labour, are a pro eu, party that want cheap labour from the east of Europe, and drive down the wages of the british workers, that's there wet dream, and the idiots who vote for them three parties, that want to stay in the E union.
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