[Beetlejuice]

Last week Jade and Joel got 3 nominations. Neither faced eviction.

This week Cristian and Nick got 2 nominations and are now facing the vote along with people who got 3 or more.

They wonder why viewers are left confused and fed up with them

[Kate!]

It's laughable.

[Withano]

So annoying, makes no sense

[Ashley.]

It's a stupid way to keep their favourites in the house. Bring back head-to-head evictions.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Firegazer

It's a stupid way to keep their favourites in the house. Bring back head-to-head evictions.

I don't mind how they do it. But to go from one rule to another each week depending on what suits you is so manipulative and unfair it's laughable

[Calderyon]

Only thing they have to say is: The people with the most nominations will be put up for eviction, but not say how many.

As BB can change rules anytime and anyway.

Which is dumb and idiotic. Which we have experience on.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Only thing they have to say is: The people with the most nominations will be put up for eviction, but not say how many.

As BB can change rules anytime and anyway.

Which is dumb and idiotic. Which we have experience on.

It's just bollocks.

[Adamw92]

If whatever the twist is requires at least 6 housemates to face eviction then maybe thats why so many are up this week?? They could have explained it that way if it is but we'll just have to wait and see.

[Kate!]

Will Jack get to give an immunity again I wonder.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

If whatever the twist is requires at least 6 housemates to face eviction then maybe thats why so many are up this week?? They could have explained it that way if it is but we'll just have to wait and see.

Ugh it's probably Jack choosing three housemates to save instead of one.

"Jack. We have changed the rules so that you can now split your immunity passes between more than one housemate. Before you exercise this power, how did you feel when Jade gave you a luxury shopping budget?"

[Babayaro.]

It's a joke tbh.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

If whatever the twist is requires at least 6 housemates to face eviction then maybe thats why so many are up this week?? They could have explained it that way if it is but we'll just have to wait and see.

Possibly. But this isn't the first time they've done this. The first time I can recall is when Jackie Travers was up for eviction even though she shouldn't have been. She then got evicted.

Most people didn't say a word on DS (who usually complain about these things) because nobody liked her

[JoshBB]

They really need to pick one rule and stick with it. I suggest:

The 2 housemates with most noms going up (along with ties), or
The 3 housemates with most noms going up (along with ties also).

Having tons of HMs up is ridiculous imo

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

It's just bollocks.

It is. And blatant manipulation. And unfortunately i know where they have got the idea from.

Adding that a cheap way to make more money, since more people up -> more votes to evict -> more money.

[Josy]

As well as the 'Big brother can change the rules at any time' there is also...

'The minimum number of people available for eviction each week may be changed without notice'

I always find it hilarious how irate people get over things like this when it's been the same for years.

If this next twist was preplanned then there may need to be a certain amount up for it to work.

[Jamesy]

Looking at social media a lot of people are confused why so many are up.

Would be nice if a rule was stuck by.

[bitontheslide]

As Josy says, people are making up rules that don't exist on the BB site. At a minimum this thread is a little premature as we haven't yet heard the details of the twist, they will be shared tomorrow at which time it may all become clear.

BB manipulate, thats how it is, thats how its always been, I think people have short memories

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Josy

As well as the 'Big brother can change the rules at any time' there is also...

'The minimum number of people available for eviction each week may be changed without notice'

I always find it hilarious how irate people get over things like this when it's been the same for years.

No. It has not. There was a format that they very rarely strayed away from.

You can't watch things happen and then decide after the event what the rules are. That is blatant manipulation that just gives them a green card for even more manipulation than there usually is.

[Absorption]

The 'BB can change the rules at any time' thing originally seemed to apply to what went on within the house rather than what affected the viewers/voters.

I think the first time that changed was when they put Nicki Graham back in as a 'proper' housemate (ie still eligible to win) after people had spent money voting to evict her. Davina kept quoting 'BB can change the rules at any time' and basically telling us to stop whinging but that was when the programme 'jumped the shark', so to speak. It was the first blatant manipulation outside the original parameters and done for the sake of viewing figures, of course. Downhill ever since then..!

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

As Josy says, people are making up rules that don't exist on the BB site. At a minimum this thread is a little premature as we haven't yet heard the details of the twist, they will be shared tomorrow at which time it may all become clear.

BB manipulate, thats how it is, thats how its always been, I think people have short memories

No, it is not how it has always been. This level of manipulation is a relatively recent thing (though you can find the odd example here and there on Channel 4). Indeed, it has never been as blatant as it is now.

Again, supposed Big Brother fans defending this crap that is putting viewers off. So they get away with it again and again until there are no viewers left.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

No. It has not. There was a format that they very rarely strayed away from.

You can't watch things happen and then decide after the event what the rules are. That is blatant manipulation that just gives them a green card for even more manipulation than there usually is.

Go find a copy of the rules and read them...

And seriously BB or the producers have been changing rules and making decisions like this since day one which they are perfectly entitled to do due to the way they cover themselves with the most important rule of all, the only reason we have so much complaining about it now is because a large percentage of viewers now follow online too and want to know everything as soon as it happens.

If a twist needs a certain amount up to work then so be it.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Josy

Go find a copy of the rules and read them...

And seriously BB or the producers have been changing rules and making decisions like this since day one

No, they have not. How can you say that? The standard rules for nominations were always that 2 or more people with the most noms would face the public vote. The only time that was not the case was when there was a twist of some sort, usually announced to the viewers before nominations took place. That was how it was done on Channel 4 for years

Now they wait to see how people nominate and make the rules up depending on what the result is. That is blatant manipulation. And they do it now to a level they have never done before. It is shocking to see fans of the show defend them over it.

If a twist needs a certain amount up to work then so be it.

If it's about a twist then so be it. but they've done this a lot over the last couple of years. And once upon a time these twists would be announced before the nominations to the viewers.

As I said, you are giving them the freedom to get away with manipulating the show to a ridiculous degree that is and has been putting viewers off.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Absorption

The 'BB can change the rules at any time' thing originally seemed to apply to what went on within the house rather than what affected the viewers/voters.

I think the first time that changed was when they put Nicki Graham back in as a 'proper' housemate (ie still eligible to win) after people had spent money voting to evict her. Davina kept quoting 'BB can change the rules at any time' and basically telling us to stop whinging but that was when the programme 'jumped the shark', so to speak. It was the first blatant manipulation outside the original parameters and done for the sake of viewing figures, of course. Downhill ever since then..!

It wasn't the first. It was just the one that people remember the most. BB6 featured a blatant piece of manipulation when Kemal, Anthony and Craig were supposedly up. They waited to see which group did nominate and which group did not and which ever one Vanessa was in would be the one who were really nominated. Unfortunately for them Makosi was more unpopular then Vanessa, so they then added another twist where the two with the most votes would face a HM vote. This led to Vanessa being evicted over Makosi, which is what they were going for all along.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

No, they have not. How can you say that? The standard rules for nominations were always that 2 or more people with the most noms would face the public vote. The only time that was not the case was when there was a twist of some sort, usually announced to the viewers before nominations took place. That was how it was done on Channel 4 for years

Now they wait to see how people nominate and make the rules up depending on what the result is. That is blatant manipulation. And they do it now to a level they have never done before. It is shocking to see fans of the show defend them over it.

If it's about a twist then so be it. but they've done this a lot over the last couple of years. And once upon a time these twists would be announced before the nominations to the viewers.

As I said, you are giving them the freedom to get away with manipulating the show to a ridiculous degree that is and has been putting viewers off.

This isn't true at all. There's been times when there's only 2 up in a head to head, there's been times when anyone with 2 or more was up and there's been times when any hm that received only one nom or more was up.

They already have the freedom to do whatever they want...they always have which has resulted in some of the more ridiculous twists over the years.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Josy

This isn't true at all. There's been times when there's only 2 up in a head to head, there's been times when anyone with 2 or more was up.

Name me one series on Channel 4 when anyone with 2 nominations was up just because they received 2 nominations. That is a recent development which they first used to get Jackie Travers up and out during bb14.

In week 5 of BB14...

Dexter got 4 votes
Gina got 4 votes
Callum got 5 votes
The twins got 3 votes

The way it was being done that series, it should have been... Callum vs. Dexter vs. Gina

Jackie got 2 votes and suddenly she just happened to be up for eviction, so they put the twins up as well.