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Old 06-07-2015, 12:10 AM #1
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BEWARE ENGLAND THIS WILL COME TO YOU IF THE LABOUR COMMUNISTS GET BACK INTO POWER....THEYLL MAKE US GREECE IF YOU LET THEM

A few tales of insanity from the beloved communist welsh assembly (who are now running wales national airport very badly with 7% losses) and welsh councils.....

1) Compulsory selective landlord licenses PER privately owned property..plus 2) Compulsory landlord licenses per landlord (accompanied by threats of fines, courses, evaluations etc etc
3) The council are offering nothing in return for this cash grab, just a licensing badge , yippee...
4) Housing benefits are now paid direct to tenants
5) The problem in these areas is invariably down to tenants and social problems (drugs drink etc) landlords have an interest in maintaining properties as its their investment.....

Clearly these money grabbing committees are labouring under the absurd notion that all landlords are evil money grabbers and all tenants are oliver twist innocents being exploited and you have a situation where landlords are even more powerless.

More rents will be stolen and houses destroyed, more work for housing benefits to sort out , environmental health, to clean up the mess.... Bad tenants on housing benefits know exactly how to exploit the system already and will always be unaccountable for damaging property, simply because they will claim they cant afford to fix it and then move on. Landlords by comparison have very few rights and will soon have less , yet will have far far more red tape regulations and expenses and nothing in return?

So is this is how we battle austerity in wales, rob more from the working man and entrepreneurs?....Greece here we come!!!




A selective licensing scheme is being brought in to force in the Tyisha ward of Llanelli, allowing the council greater control over private landlords.

The move has been approved by Executive Board, and follows extensive consultation with landlords, tenants, and members of the community.

It is the first time Carmarthenshire County Council has introduced a Selective Licensing Scheme, which gives power to the local authority to help improve the management of private rented properties in areas where they are concentrated and suffer high levels of anti-social behaviour.

It means landlords must meet certain standards to gain a license and both landlords and tenants must comply with obligations placed on them as part of the license.

Cllr Tegwen Devichand, Executive Board Member for Housing, said: “We carried out extensive consultation in the area and there is a lot of local support for this scheme, which we hope will make a difference to the community.”

Tyisha, has the highest number of privately rented properties and is double the county average.

It also has the highest recorded number of incidences of anti-social behaviour in the county.

The council has already made efforts to improve the area, introducing a Local Lettings Policy which puts stricter controls on allocations of council or housing association homes – early evidence suggesting it has had a positive impact.

Cllr Devichand added: “We are determined to make the Tyisha ward a better place to live, with improved housing conditions and a safer community.”


Warning for Landlords and agents in the socialist republic of Cymru formerly known as Wales:

Compulsory licensing of all letting agents and landlords in Wales.

Compulsory licensing of all letting agents and landlords in Wales has become closer after a National Assembly Committee agreed with the principles of new legislation this week.
The flagship Housing (Wales) Bill will introduce a compulsory registration and licensing scheme throughout the private rented sector.

The scheme is regarded as a possible template for England should a Labour government get in.

Under the Welsh Agents and Landlords Licensing Scheme (WALLS), “fit and proper” person checks will be carried out on all agents and landlords. Any landlord who fails the check or who does not wish to be registered must use an agent.

Agents will have to register, pass a suitability test and become licensed, and must also belong to an approved body – for example, ARLA or NALS. Both agents and landlords would have to commit to training and continuous professional development, with agents having to ensure that two-thirds of staff received accredited training.

Licences would last three years.

Penalties for agents would be fines of up to £50,000 (£20,000 for landlords), and failure to register would be a criminal offence. Failure to register would also give tenants rent-free periods and make it impossible to evict them.

On Tuesday, the Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee said that private tenants “should be able to expect a decent standard of accommodation”.

It went on: “Under the licensing scheme, tenants shouldn’t have to pay rent if their agent or landlord hasn’t got a licence. In such cases, the committee wants to ensure that tenants are still protected, particularly from the threat of eviction.

“The committee also wants to know how the cost of enforcement actions against landlords and agents who breach the licensing scheme will be met.”

It has requested that full funding details are made available before the next round in the Bill’s progress.

One agent, Clive Spence, of The Home Rental Company in Carmarthen and Caerfyddin, said he felt many smaller agents would fall by the wayside once regulation is brought in.

He said: “I feel that many of the small letting agents operating out of one office will not survive the red tape.

“Also, some estate agents are unlikely to spend time and money having the staff trained and will leave the rental market altogether.

“We are expecting an increase of landlords who do not have the time, to hand their portfolio over to property management companies.

“I don’t think the Welsh Government has considered there may not be enough professional licensed letting agents in Wales to cope with the demand.”
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the environment departments do nothing about rogue tenants, but the day they move out, bang theyre onto the landlords, its daylight robbery
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WALES IS always poorest uk nation on every single league table, guess why? labour have had a dictatorship there for 100 years
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Landlord licences are a great idea, protection for tenant as well as landlord.
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they offer nothing? also what about selective landlord licenses too ? they run to up to £800 a year per property in POOR AREAS?
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It will be good in as much as it will be easier for the council to monitor where the private rented properties are in the area and who owns them, this will hopefully end the problem for councils of slum landlords who fail to maintain their properties or vet their tenants.
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It will be good in as much as it will be easier for the council to monitor where the private rented properties are in the area and who owns them, this will hopefully end the problem for councils of slum landlords who fail to maintain their properties or vet their tenants.
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If you think these ideas are communist... then it really is worrying how far the relative political centre has drifted to the right. Most of these are common sense. Housing Benefit straight to tenant is surely just logical, why would it go to the landlord when they're not the person who would need them?
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If you think these ideas are communist... then it really is worrying how far the relative political centre has drifted to the right. Most of these are common sense. Housing Benefit straight to tenant is surely just logical, why would it go to the landlord when they're not the person who would need them?
theyre insane. the councils offer NOTHING to landlords , no help nothing, there are no rights to evict tenants who destroy properties and steal rent either....even if there are rats floods, drugs, anything, a landlord still cant enter his own property....prepare for far more houses going up in smoke thanks to these insane draconian communist moves from welsh labour who have kept wales dirt poor for 100 years
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I don't think licensing and regulating landlords and (especially) useless jobsworth middleman "rental agencies" (who are all ****ing crooks) is necessarily a bad idea. There needs to be some sort of observation of the private rental industry, it's an absolute shambles on all fronts. As you say, truth, bad for landlords AND ALSO bad for tenants in many cases. I've experienced frequent petty disputes, miscommunications and outright lies from both landlords and the local rental agency in a couple of properties (they have a monopoly over the area) and it would be great to have an impartial regulatory body who could sort this stuff out.

So, I'm all for it IF that's what would be on offer. But not if - as you say - it's just a cash-grab and no one will actually be doing anything any differently. I also have strong suspicions that the cost of being "licensed" will simply be passed on to the tenants with higher rents, so there's that to consider...


Regarding housing benefit being paid directly to tenants: For privately rented properties this is the case across the entire UK, and has been since at least 2008 when "Local Housing Allowance" fully replaced housing benefit. I don't know where you get the idea that it's usually paid directly to private landlords, or that this is how it is or has been in recent years anywhere in the UK. It's only paid direct in "exceptional circumstances".
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If you think these ideas are communist... then it really is worrying how far the relative political centre has drifted to the right. Most of these are common sense. Housing Benefit straight to tenant is surely just logical, why would it go to the landlord when they're not the person who would need them?
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who has NEVER voted tory and voted labour several times, so youre lying again
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i don't think licensing and regulating landlords and (especially) useless jobsworth middleman "rental agencies" (who are all ****ing crooks) is necessarily a bad idea. There needs to be some sort of observation of the private rental industry, it's an absolute shambles on all fronts. As you say, truth, bad for landlords and also bad for tenants in many cases. I've experienced frequent petty disputes, miscommunications and outright lies from both landlords and the local rental agency in a couple of properties (they have a monopoly over the area) and it would be great to have an impartial regulatory body who could sort this stuff out.

So, i'm all for it if that's what would be on offer. But not if - as you say - it's just a cash-grab and no one will actually be doing anything any differently. I also have strong suspicions that the cost of being "licensed" will simply be passed on to the tenants with higher rents, so there's that to consider...


Regarding housing benefit being paid directly to tenants: For privately rented properties this is the case across the entire uk, and has been since at least 2008 when "local housing allowance" fully replaced housing benefit. I don't know where you get the idea that it's usually paid directly to private landlords, or that this is how it is or has been in recent years anywhere in the uk. It's only paid direct in "exceptional circumstances".
tennants are smashing up properties and landlords cannot get in to inspect? Neither can the council environment department? There are no laws allowing these peope into ruined properties to inspect and fix the problems?

Do you understand?
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