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Old 03-08-2015, 12:04 PM #1
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Default Ted Heath Child Sex Abuse Claims Investigated

http://news.sky.com/story/1529660/te...s-investigated


[Child sex abuse claims against the former
prime minister Sir Edward Heath are to be
investigated by police, it has been announced.

Officers are to examine the handling of a claim against
the Conservative prime minister made in the 1990s,
the Independent Police Complaints Commission has confirmed.]



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In a statement the police watchdog said: "It is alleged that a criminal prosecution was not pursued, when a person threatened to expose that Sir Edward Heath may have been involved in offences concerning children.

Why didn't they expose him then?.... :/
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In a statement the police watchdog said: "It is alleged that a criminal prosecution was not pursued, when a person threatened to expose that Sir Edward Heath may have been involved in offences concerning children.

Why didn't they expose him then?.... :/

I assume in those days it was kept closed up
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There were rumours about Heath at the time, whether they were true or not is anyone's guess, but this must be followed up as it is clear that cover ups did happen in that era, and the more strands uncovered, the more likely it is that it will never happen again.
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PM says police can go 'as high as they like' that's nice of him.

'Police should be able to investigate child abuse allegations against high-profile politicians "without fear or uncertainty" of how high up in Government they can go.

David Cameron said police should be able to take action on any new information and urged anyone who knew anything about "these terrible crimes against children and young people" to come forward.

He spoke after it was disclosed that the former head of MI5 urged the Government to keep quiet about allegations of child sex abuse made against a senior MP in the 1980s.'

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The amount of child sex abuse coming to light is terrible.
Anyone under suspicion should be brought to book, dead or alive.
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The amount of child sex abuse coming to light is terrible.
Anyone under suspicion should be brought to book, dead or alive.

I think they will , soon
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'If' any of it is true in the first place, then it should be at least thoroughly investigated,although for the life of me,why was it not done so at the time allegations were raised near decades ago.

When has child abuse 'not' been a criminal offence in the 60s,70s,80s and 90s to the present.

Why all this when the individual is dead and can never be questioned or answer the allegations or defend themselves.
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That's kind of especially appalling if this turns out to be true... yuck
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Derek Lauds arse will be starting to twitch about now from things I have read his name seems to be caught up pretty deeply in all of this once a couple more of them pop their clogs there will be nobody to protect him.
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If this is True?
then its shocking.

They can not prove it
unless others come forward.

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Derek Lauds arse will be starting to twitch about now from things I have read his name seems to be caught up pretty deeply in all of this once a couple more of them pop their clogs there will be nobody to protect him.


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Derek and Ted Heath are innocent until proven guilty.

However if there was claims about it at the time when he was alive then it should've been investigated, although with all of this information coming out now it's making it hard for any normal guys to walk around if their Niece, Nephew, Son, or Daughter nowadays without getting glares from people, I've not experienced it personally myself because of how young I am, but I know of people that have experienced that and it's disgusting and I blame people like Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris etc who should rot in hell for causing this issue for the male gender.
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Derek and Ted Heath are innocent until proven guilty.

However if there was claims about it at the time when he was alive then it should've been investigated, although with all of this information coming out now it's making it hard for any normal guys to walk around if their Niece, Nephew, Son, or Daughter nowadays without getting glares from people, I've not experienced it personally myself because of how young I am, but I know of people that have experienced that and it's disgusting and I blame people like Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris etc who should rot in hell for causing this issue for the male gender.
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If this is True?
then its shocking.

They can not prove it
unless others come forward.
If there is any truth in the claim, then going to the tabloids jeopardises any inquiry and makes me question the reasons for the claim.
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In which universe would the media not pick this up though? It's a huge scandal for the establishment it says nothing as to the cases involved.
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If there is any truth in the claim, then going to the tabloids jeopardises any inquiry and makes me question the reasons for the claim.
Yes it would be
much better if there was Solid Proof
all we have is one man
so far.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-old-boy.html

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I'm sure if there was a cover up that there will be some traceable evidence of it somewhere. Everyone knows that this was a problem and maybe it still is. It will all come out one way or another, so going to the press does nothing more than focus public attention on the issue. The more attention on it, the better as far as I'm concerned.
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Do you mean the evidence from the 80s that was destroyed, the evidence that Theresa May admitted was part of a cover up?..
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These rumours involving Heath have been around for decades.
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These rumours involving Heath have been around for decades.
I think that many Rape crisis lines have been contacted down the years regarding Ted Heath - it will take all of these anonymous callers to come forward - many of whom have have ruined lives
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I think they would be better off trying to catch ones at large now

as there seems to be quite a few
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Do you mean the evidence from the 80s that was destroyed, the evidence that Theresa May admitted was part of a cover up?..
I mean the whole sordid mess needs to be exposed. I think the whole web of abuse is wide spread and many big names from the past and present have been protected. Any exposure in the press or anywhere else that leads to it being brought to the public's attention and forces something to be done is fine by me.

From my memories Heath was always viewed as suspicious and the same applies now to current day politicians and celebrities. It has to be sorted out and now is the time to do it.
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These rumours involving Heath have been around for decades.

Yes due to a Women who had a Brothel
who the Police were about to close down
but she protested she knew of that PM having sex with a boy.

So the Police dropped it.


That was reported in the papers
Ref : Ch5HD Wright Stuff
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I think that many Rape crisis lines have been contacted down the years regarding Ted Heath - it will take all of these anonymous callers to come forward - many of whom have have ruined lives
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