[LeatherTrumpet]

What are you leaving them extra money for?

if you are honest are you really just doing it because you fear being seen as tight or are you trying to impress someone that you have money to spare?


or is it because they have been nice and for some reason you want to pay more for your over priced meal?


What are you "actually" leaving extra money for?


Many big chains deduct a percentage of service charges to pay for ‘admin costs’.

The big restaurant chains that do this – according to the Unite Union include: Pizza Express, Giraffe, Cafe Rouge and dozens of independently run food establishments.

Pizza Express keeps 8 per cent of any tip made with a credit card for ‘admin fees’ while Giraffe and Cafe Rouge keep 10 per cent.

There have also been claims that some independent restaurants keep all of the service charge to pay for ‘upkeep’ of the restaurant.

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/03/restau...#ixzz3hmIYdLeq



*reaches for wallet*

[Benjamin]

Not all restaurants have a service charge included in the bill. I leave a tip of the waiter/waitress gets to keep it all and I always give a cash tip. I do it if their service has been great and they have looked after my needs for the night. It's not s high paid job and most people working in that industry do so for the extra little money from tips. I cannot stand people who do not tip after a good meal and service. It's so rude.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Not all restaurants have a service charge included in the bill. I leave a tip of the waiter/waitress gets to keep it all and I always give a cash tip. I do it if their service has been great and they have looked after my needs for the night. It's not s high paid job and most people working in that industry do so for the extra little money from tips. I cannot stand people who do not tip after a good meal and service. It's so rude.

rude?

how so

Surely good service is what the place pays the employee for?

I expect good service in the Spar, the bike shop, my dentist, the bank, amazon etc

just because they are walking 20 yards to bring food is no different?

[LeatherTrumpet]

So far I have not tipped anyone in the Spar

and they are lovely

[Benjamin]

A restaurant is different from a shop. Your waiter/waitress is with you throughout the duration of your time there usually attending to your every need to make sure you have an enjoyable meal and evening since you have decided not to cook for yourself that night. They are kind of like your mini butler if you will. If they have given you a lovely evening then yes it's rude not to leave them a little extra seeing as most restaurants don't pay very highly.

[Benjamin]

Also non tippers I wouldn't recommend going to the same restaurant twice. The waiters and waitresses generally remember who tips and who doesn't, so expect barely average service if you return.


I grew up in hospitality and ran a restaurant so I know how it all works

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

A restaurant is different from a shop. Your waiter/waitress is with you throughout the duration of your time there usually attending to your every need to make sure you have an enjoyable meal and evening since you have decided not to cook for yourself that night. They are kind of like your mini butler if you will. If they have given you a lovely evening then yes it's rude not to leave them a little extra seeing as most restaurants don't pay very highly.

lol

they take your order and bring the food and say "is everything alright?"

giving them money for that is rather bizarre

maybe if folk stopped this silly tradition they would get better wages

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Also non tippers I wouldn't recommend going to the same restaurant twice. The waiters and waitresses generally remember who tips and who doesn't, so expect barely average service if you return.


I grew up in hospitality and ran a restaurant so I know how it all works

so you dont get an "is everything alright"


please

[Benjamin]

I guess you never worked in hospitality or go to crappy places to eat then if your service is mediocre? That or they know you're a non tipper and so don't really care about your evening so give you the most basic of service

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so you dont get an "is everything alright"


please

Yes but you also get them getting you a good table if you ask, more drinks, making sure your meal is okay, getting anything else you may need whilst also having to attend ten other tables to make sure everything gets to you promptly. If they don't bring your food as soon as it's cooked it just sits under a hot plate until they do it, nobody else will bring it for them. A lot of places they also have to make the drinks and deserts as well as clear plates from you so you are not sat there for ages with dirty plates, clean tables, lay tables, polish cutlery, take payments. You are sadly mistaken if you think it's by any means an easy job, and ten hours of that is exhausting yet you still have to smile and be nice.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I guess you never worked in hospitality or go to crappy places to eat then if your service is mediocre? That or they know you're a non tipper and so don't really care about your evening so give you the most basic of service

iv been a waiter and worked in bars as a student and working in London for 15 years for large marketing departments serving the top Ad agencies i have eaten in just about all the best places the capital has to offer so you are way off the mark there

bring food from a kitchen is the same the world over

what do you want

here it is

is it ok

do you want owt else?


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do me a favour

[Benjamin]

You clearly were a crap waiter then and didn't make much in tips.

[Liam-]

Whenever my family goes out for a meal we always leave a tip for the server, it's the nice thing to do for someone who has made sure your experience at the establishment was enjoyable.

[Jarrod]

Recently I've had the pleasure of being able to leave tips to some absolutely lovely waitresses. I think it's something you should do if you've had a good experience in a restaurant.

I know it's only the Premier Inn, but I had a meal in there on my first night in Cardiff and the two waitresses that were working were the most friendly and funny people we could have asked for. They catered to everything we needed, we had a good old chat, they recommended places around the bay and the town to visit or to eat in and they were the most helpful members of staff. I left them a tip for that alone.

More recently, Pizza Hut in Wrexham has an amazing waitress who makes you feel so welcome and she's always happy to help and honest she just really makes you enjoy your meal. I leave her a tip each time I've been in there, increasing it every time.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

You clearly were a crap waiter then and didn't make much in tips.

of well youve nailed your argument with that post

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Whenever my family goes out for a meal we always leave a tip for the server, it's the nice thing to do for someone who has made sure your experience at the establishment was enjoyable.

would you tip a nurse if they looked after a family member really well?

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

of well youve nailed your argument with that post

I wasn't having an argument but I guess I was right though.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

would you tip a nurse if they looked after a family member really well?

Yes, you would get them something like a bunch of flowers to show your appreciation.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

would you tip a nurse if they looked after a family member really well?

If it was beyond the normal expectations, I'd probably do something to thank them yes, maybe a bunch of flowers or something, I don't see the issue with it

People might just be doing a job, but that doesn't mean they should be immune from extra praise from the people they're dealing with.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I wasn't having an argument but I guess I was right though.

lol

its so far back I could not remember but it was scotland and unless You are delivering a baby or reviving someone from a coma there wont be a big tip

[Benjamin]

Good lad, Liam.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol

its so far back I could not remember but it was scotland and unless You are delivering a baby or reviving someone from a coma there wont be a big tip

Lol, well maybe you should have smiled

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If it was beyond the normal expectations, I'd probably do something to thank them yes, maybe a bunch of flowers or something, I don't see the issue with it

People might just be doing a job, but that doesn't mean they should be immune from extra praise from the people they're dealing with.

Then tell a waitress she has done well and then tell her boss to pay her properly and stop inconveniencing customers

simples and you dont lose money to supplement a business that you dont own

[Shaun]

it's nice innit

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