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04-09-2015, 06:35 PM | #1 | |||
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Do you have a strong opinion on probably the worlds biggest issue right now.
I just don't know if I'm educated enough in the topic to be giving out opinions but I have quite a switching mind set on the situation. Any views or points????
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04-09-2015, 06:38 PM | #2 | |||
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My view is that we, the UK, have already thrown a billion pounds at this and we've agreed to take some refugees from UN camps but not people who enter the country illegally and I think that's the right thing to do. I think it's time the rest of the world stepped up and recognised this is a global problem and the influx of migrants shouldn't be born by Europe alone.
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04-09-2015, 07:03 PM | #3 | |||
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My view is that there's a whole planet that we all live on, that has enough space for everyone, all it needs is for everyone to open their doors and do their bit.
With the current crisis i feel the UK is right to take in Syrian refugees from the UN camps, they can be processed quickly and start a new life. It's really sad that it took a 3 year old boy to be washed up on a Turkish beach for the world to start to take notice, this is a crisis that needs to be resolved asap. |
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04-09-2015, 07:19 PM | #4 | |||
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My view, or one of them, is to train all those young strong lads to fight for their country, don't they have an army?
Stop allowing people freedom to move across the borders until they are registered and processed. Process them at the first safe country they arrive at, then send economic migrants back and help genuine refugees to settle into a new country. Any migrants jumping on lorries, trains etc should be deported immediately and told they face a lifetime ban from Britain if they do it again. |
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04-09-2015, 07:20 PM | #5 | ||
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I think the other arab nations should be responsible for taking a large amount of refugees. It makes sense as they are muslim countries and being not so far away it will make it easier for these displaced people to return home again once isis is wiped from the face of the earth.
Another solution would be for troops from Europe/arab countries to go in and eliminate isis and make Syria safe for Syrians to return home. |
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04-09-2015, 07:30 PM | #6 | |||
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I agree that economic migrants should be sent back (at this moment in time) as they aren't fleeing danger or persecution, but then i do wonder what right anyone has to tell someone that they can't move to better themselves, i know that if i'd got a bum deal with a crap country i would like the opportunity to make my life and my future family's life a happy and prosperous one, i wonder who was first to say...no you can't live here.....
We should be allowed to move around the globe and settle freely where ever we want, what's complicated matters is the threat of terrorism, and now a lot of people are afraid of muslims/foreigners, imo this is a situation that's only going to get worse. |
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04-09-2015, 08:49 PM | #7 | |||
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I fear that mass immigration, here and the rest of europe, will cause a disaster in the future, and set us back in post war times, it took some years after ww2 was over to rebuild europe, and take for granted, in the paradise we live in, I hope assad wins, so he can rebuild syria, he has alot of powerful friends who can help him with that,
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04-09-2015, 09:18 PM | #8 | |||
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Yes its sad that there in this situation but it is not Britain's fault nor there problem to deal with and Europe shouldnt try forcing us to take them especially when its going to take more money away from British people who need it
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04-09-2015, 09:53 PM | #9 | ||
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...it is partially Britain's fault. Learn more stuff.
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04-09-2015, 09:57 PM | #10 | |||
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It os not Britain's fault they didnt force them too flee there country
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04-09-2015, 10:22 PM | #11 | ||
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04-09-2015, 10:31 PM | #12 | |||
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04-09-2015, 10:42 PM | #13 | |||
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To be honest the media have made it sound like every refugee is just coming over to have an easy life and claim benefits when the alarming fact is many are fleeing a desperate and quite life threating time back in their own country. Yes there will be some who are just looking for that but the poor buggers who actually are looking for saftey and to not have to live like that. If that ever happened to us I would like to think there would be somewhere we could escape to and people would take pity on us, as opposed to treating us like some kind of problem to shunt towards someone else.
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04-09-2015, 10:46 PM | #14 | |||
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I saw this kicking around facebook and yeah it got me, as this probably has happened to so many children
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04-09-2015, 10:48 PM | #15 | |||
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It's a shame that the UN is such a huge, overstuffed, ineffective, toothless organisation. It's the UN who should be sorting this. I know they have refugee camps set up but it's far too little, far too late. I wonder what bloody good they are sometimes.
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05-09-2015, 12:11 AM | #16 | ||
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I think if it was'nt for us being in the EU and having an open door policy then we would be much more able/willing to take in many more genuine refugees.
Immigration became a dirty word again when the flood gates were opened and tens of thousands of migrants from eastern Europe flocked here in there masses and we could do absolutely nothing as a country to control the numbers. I don't blame these people,I blame the policies which allowed it. We should now be in a position where we can and want to help these refugees. Now hundreds of thousands of migrants from Africa and the Middle East are entering Europe illegally.Some are in desperate need of our help,Some want to come and take our jobs,Some want to come and milk our benefits system and some are terrorists and it is very difficult to seperate the people who are genuinely fleeing for their lives from war torn countries and those who are just trying their luck. We need to be rejecting the illegal immigrants and taking in the people that we know 100% to be the ones who desperately need the help,directly from the countries affected by major conflict. |
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05-09-2015, 12:27 AM | #17 | |||
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My view is that yes its sad and awful that these people are dying whilst trying to get to the EU, but we also have to think about what happens if we do allow them to come here. I want to help them as much as anyone but it's such a sticky situation. If we do help, more will risk their lives coming here, which would lead to more deaths... But if we could offer the safety of them staying here and keep doing checks, it wouldn't be the end of the world. We can't take too many as we already have enough people struggling here. But my bet is that these refugees would be happy staying literally anywhere.
We also have the concerns of people who aren't actually 'refugees' entering the UK. I don't doubt for a second that people will use this as an excuse to sneak into the UK and try and convert people to 'extremism' or whatever. but again, if a close eye is kept then it shouldnt be too much of an issue. However, my main belief is that rather than us saving all these refugees, why don't we look at who is causing the problems, why these people are being killed and if there is anything we can do to stop them. We could save every single refugee right now, but tomorrow, there will be just as many more. We have to look at why this is happening if we really want to help.
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05-09-2015, 06:34 AM | #18 | |||
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...my views are..the alien races must be looking down and thinking, that's one pretty screwed up planet/when did preservation of life get to be legal or illegal.../invade them..?...no, that's what we've learned, we won't go there...
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05-09-2015, 09:21 AM | #19 | ||
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Until we stop selling arms to these country's then we have no moral high ground whatsoever and we have to take responsibility for our actions as far as i can see the UK sold billions of dollars per year to countrys currently on the UN blacklist after Cameron relaxed rules on weapons sales in 2014.
This is the result of arming people that want to overturn their goverments. The guns dont just vanish when they are done. These people are fleaing for their lives they arent just off for a knees up at the UK's expense as dumbarse Farrage likes to tell any old fascist that that will listen and believe him. http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ressive-states Last edited by billy123; 05-09-2015 at 09:26 AM. |
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05-09-2015, 09:26 AM | #20 | |||
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05-09-2015, 09:32 AM | #22 | |||
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05-09-2015, 09:39 AM | #23 | |||
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And why are you having another pop at Nigel Farage who is actually trying to stand up and help the people living here and why are you using words like fascist....
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05-09-2015, 09:42 AM | #24 | |||
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05-09-2015, 09:47 AM | #25 | |||
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We have a moral obligation to accept as many refugees as we possibly can, especially since the iraq war and bombings in Syria are widely considered to be the root cause for these people to be displaced in the first place.
It's a humanitarian crisis, we shouldn't be looking at whether or not it economically benefits us.
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