[LeatherTrumpet]

if you believe that somehow something apart from oblivion happens then you need to say why you think that (ie what information that you have read etc has led you to believe this)



Interestingly I went with my mum to put flowers on my dads grave (next door to my grandparents stone who died young in the 70s) and the dog was going mad sniffing around the grave -either she could smell my dad or it was just a dead thing she could smell.


The outlook for most of us from a Christian point of view is pretty bad:

Therefore, after death, a person resides in a “temporary” heaven or hell. After this temporary realm, at the final resurrection, a person’s eternal destiny will not change. The precise “location” of that eternal destiny is what changes. Believers will ultimately be granted entrance into the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21:1). Unbelievers will ultimately be sent to the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people—based entirely on whether or not they had trusted Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Matthew 25:46; John 3:36).



http://www.gotquestions.org/what-happens-death.html




Dont forget there was 13 billion years of oblivion before you were born...

[Niamh.]

I believe we just die and that's it. It's very hard for people (me included) to wrap their minds around not actually existing anymore because it feels like the world exists because you do, if you get what I mean In a way we'll have eternal life because our bodies will break down and become part of the world in another form

[Ramsay]

Eh...I believe that pretty much, it's the exact same as before we were born, nothing. I used to be so scared about that idea but i'm now at peace with it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I believe we just die and that's it. It's very hard for people (me included) to wrap their minds around not actually existing anymore because it feels like the world exists because you do, if you get what I mean In a way we'll have eternal life because our bodies will break down and become part of the world in another form

yes we are all made from particles from stars millions of years ago

[Livia]

I believe that when you die your energy... spirit if you like... goes on. I believe that the people we love never leave us and I know they are around me. Some people may think this is wishful thinking but I don't have to prove it to anyone else because I believe it. And I do believe it. Completely.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I believe we just die and that's it. It's very hard for people (me included) to wrap their minds around not actually existing anymore because it feels like the world exists because you do, if you get what I mean In a way we'll have eternal life because our bodies will break down and become part of the world in another form

Yeah this for me too.We are recycled and become part of the Earth again.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes we are all made from particles from stars millions of years ago

Our bodies are... yes.

[Niamh.]

what I do think though is that it's a shame that so many extreme religious people waste their lives hating people for ridiculous reasons and following rules that will make their lives more restricted and less fun when in reality, this is most likely it, our one shot at consciousness and if there was a God who created all this life and our consciousness wouldn't he/she want us to make the most of it anyway?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

I believe that when you die your energy... spirit if you like... goes on. I believe that the people we love never leave us and I know they are around me. Some people may think this is wishful thinking but I don't have to prove it to anyone else because I believe it. And I do believe it. Completely.

I sometimes wish i believe this.I just....well don't

[LukeB]

I do believe you come back as something else

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I do believe you come back as something else

read the first part of the op again and continue

[Kyle]

I believe I'll find out one day. That's it. Not much to think about really.

[Ashley.]

I don't really know and it's not something I like to think about.

How and When I die worries me more, I think.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I believe I'll find out one day. That's it. Not much to think about really.

well you wont will you

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well you wont will you

He might.

How can you be so sure?

[Ashley.]

It's well and good to dream about the things that might happen. Heck, even scientists have talked about the possibilities. But death itself is inevitable. Why worry about something that we probably won't even know is happening when it happens?

[Livia]

No one's worrying, we're discussing the possibilities.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well you wont will you

Semantics.

The point is I'm going to die so whatever happens happens. If there really is nothing I won't be around to give a sh*t and if there is something I'll see.

I won't hold my breath mind you as I'm not a spiritual person in any way, shape or form but hey ho I'm not going to categorically write off the chances of anything else.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one's worrying, we're discussing the possibilities.

I was just answering the OP.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

I believe that when you die your energy... spirit if you like... goes on. I believe that the people we love never leave us and I know they are around me. Some people may think this is wishful thinking but I don't have to prove it to anyone else because I believe it. And I do believe it. Completely.

This ^ I also believe that we have the ability to keep on learning until we die,if there is nothing,then really,what was the point?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Livia

He might.

How can you be so sure?

i am as sure as i am about my ability to fly to mars in a cardboard box i got from the spar

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i am as sure as i am about my ability to fly to mars in a cardboard box i got from the spar

No you're not. You have no more proof than I do! I'm willing to accept that there is a chance I may be wrong. You should try it, LT.

[arista]

Your Light goes out
like turning off a Computer.

You go no other place at all
you are sadly DEAD

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Your Light goes out
like turning off a Computer.

You go no other place at all
you are sadly DEAD

Again... you have no more proof than I do.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

No you're not. You have no more proof than I do! I'm willing to accept that there is a chance I may be wrong. You should try it, LT.

LT is doomed Livia,Peter has a one way ticket for him at those gates