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Old 06-10-2015, 09:40 AM #1
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Islamic State fighters have demolished the 2,000-year-old Arch of Triumph in Syria's ancient city of Palmyra, as the extremist group continues its campaign of destruction at the UNESCO World Heritage site.
The United Nations said on Monday that the destruction of the Roman-era arch was a sign that Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) was “terrified” by the history it embodied.

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE ERADICATE EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE EVIL DEMONS BEFORE THEIR TOXIC INSANITY ENVELOPES AND DESTROYS WHAT IS LEFT OF THE WORLD?

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damn, there go my vacation plans to go see the arch... i hope i can get a refund.
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It is obscene what these awful people are doing across the Middle East and really it is insulting to religion that they claim to do these things in the name of same.

What they are doing is a total insult to Islam anyway.
They are just a purely rotten power mad extreme organisation who the sooner they are wiped off the face off the Earth the better for all.
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Absolutely disgusting, there will be nothing left of these beautiful ancient relics, it will all be lost and for what....
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I can't believe that I'm saying this but come on Russia and blow this organization to pieces and leave about three of them alive to “interogate” as Russia pretend to do.
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I can't believe that I'm saying this but come on Russia and blow this organization to pieces and leave about three of them alive to “interogate” as Russia pretend to do.
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It is obscene what these awful people are doing across the Middle East and really it is insulting to religion that they claim to do these things in the name of same.

What they are doing is a total insult to Islam anyway.
They are just a purely rotten power mad extreme organisation who the sooner they are wiped off the face off the Earth the better for all.


This evil transcends politics, nationalities, and religion. The entire world should come together and have one no-holds barred concerted offensive to destroy every last one of them.
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I can't believe that I'm saying this but come on Russia and blow this organization to pieces and leave about three of them alive to “interogate” as Russia pretend to do.
Russia isn't targeting ISIS, they are targeting the revolutionaries who want Democracy in Syria, not Islamic regime like ISIS. They are protecting Assad, not fighting ISIS. If they were fighting ISIS then why aren't they doing it anywhere else but Syria?
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Yes they are scumbags.There is'nt all that much ancient architecture left in the world.In the era we're in now as much of it should be preserved as possible.The days of destroying it should be in the past.Kings,Emperors and pharoahs used to do it in the past to wipe out all trace of their predecessors.This is essentially what ISIS are trying to do to spread their primitive ideology.However it should not be tolerated in todays world.I know Syria is'nt exactly a tourist attraction now but one day it may well be and it's history should be preserved as much as possible for future education.I'd love to go one day,Although i can't see that happening in my life time.

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Russia isn't targeting ISIS, they are targeting the revolutionaries who want Democracy in Syria, not Islamic regime like ISIS. They are protecting Assad, not fighting ISIS. If they were fighting ISIS then why aren't they doing it anywhere else but Syria?
Scary isn't it? As we speak, Russia is strengthening ISIS, not weakening it.
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No LT in the name of Isis
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Bang On Right Again Arista - They say they are Muslims but they're killing Muslims as well as everyone else. They have NOTHING to do with any genuine religion.
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Scary isn't it? As we speak, Russia is strengthening ISIS, not weakening it.
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Russia is not strengthening IS. I'm afraid the idea that there are millions of 'moderate' rebels, fighting both IS and Assad for democracy, and who are now only being prevented by Russian bombs, is a fallacy.

Where are all these moderate forces? Even the US can't find them.

US, Turkey Struggle to Define Syrian 'Moderates' for Proposed 'Safe Zone'
ISIS In Syria: US So Far Training Only 60 'Moderate' Rebels To Take on Militant Group
US Syria policy in tatters after favoured 'moderate' rebels disband
Syria’s ‘moderates’ have disappeared... and there are no good guys

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The only person Russia is strengthening is Assad tbh.
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Russia is not strengthening IS. I'm afraid the idea that there are millions of 'moderate' rebels, fighting both IS and Assad for democracy, and who are now only being prevented by Russian bombs, is a fallacy.

Where are all these moderate forces? Even the US can't find them.

US, Turkey Struggle to Define Syrian 'Moderates' for Proposed 'Safe Zone'
ISIS In Syria: US So Far Training Only 60 'Moderate' Rebels To Take on Militant Group
US Syria policy in tatters after favoured 'moderate' rebels disband
Syria’s ‘moderates’ have disappeared... and there are no good guys

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I am so glad you pointed all this out first - save me from getting into an argument.
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Where are all these moderate forces? Even the US can't find them.
I read a couple of your links but I'm guessing they are all more or less saying the same thing?

There are moderate forces everywhere in Syria, in fact there are more than 1,000 different armed groups presently fighting, including IS, which isn't moderate at all. Its not that these forces don't exist, its identifying them that's a problem.

What we do know is, both Russia and Iran are out to protect Asad and they are ready to attack any opposing force. Whilst the West want to target the extremists 'IS' and rightly so, Russia wants to target any of the opposition.

How do they do this when so many moderates have gone to ground? by bombing hot spots where there is clear civil unrest towards the Syrian government and allies.
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Argument? I thought this was meant to be a debate
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All in the name of being cowardly sociopaths, it has nothing to do with religion, religion is just their excuse. People like these would find a justification to do this kind of **** regardless of whether religion was a thing or not.
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Russia is not strengthening IS. I'm afraid the idea that there are millions of 'moderate' rebels, fighting both IS and Assad for democracy, and who are now only being prevented by Russian bombs, is a fallacy.

Where are all these moderate forces? Even the US can't find them.

US, Turkey Struggle to Define Syrian 'Moderates' for Proposed 'Safe Zone'
ISIS In Syria: US So Far Training Only 60 'Moderate' Rebels To Take on Militant Group
US Syria policy in tatters after favoured 'moderate' rebels disband
Syria’s ‘moderates’ have disappeared... and there are no good guys

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I read a couple of your links but I'm guessing they are all more or less saying the same thing?

There are moderate forces everywhere in Syria, in fact there are more than 1,000 different armed groups presently fighting, including IS, which isn't moderate at all. Its not that these forces don't exist, its identifying them that's a problem.

What we do know is, both Russia and Iran are out to protect Asad and they are ready to attack any opposing force. Whilst the West want to target the extremists 'IS' and rightly so, Russia wants to target any of the opposition.

How do they do this when so many moderates have gone to ground? by bombing hot spots where there is clear civil unrest towards the Syrian government and allies.
Well they say the same thing in that they all highlight the difficulty in identifying any 'moderate' forces who have a substantial presence in Syria. The last one by Robert Fisk is the most worth reading I'd say: he fiercely attacks the Russians while also pointing out the holes in the Western narrative. Yes there are hundreds of different armed groups and that is exactly the problem: the opposition is far too fractured that any elements that might be moderate long ago became lost in the quagmire. It used to be the Free Syrian Army that held the greatest hope but they have fallen to pieces. IS is clearly far larger and more powerful than any other opposition group to Assad in Syria and even beyond them its al-Nusra who are the strongest and most organised force and they too are extreme Islamists. A lot of the weapons that were supplied by Washington have now found themselves in the hands of extremists as those supposedly moderate groups melted away or were absorbed.

Yes Russia do want to protect Assad: he is their ally in the region and is important to Russia maintaining their influence there. The West might not like it but the only force that is able to defeat IS in Syria is the Syrian Army. To hope that there could be an alternative where both IS and Assad are removed from power is wishful thinking, and the West is now starting to wake up to that hence the UK and US both now accepting that Assad could play a 'transitional' role in a settlement.
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