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The X Factor 2015 [S12] Series 12 of ITV's music reality show, The X Factor with judges Simon, Rita Ora, Cheryl and Nick Grimshaw ran from August to December 2015 and was won by Louisa Johnson.

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Old 22-11-2015, 06:48 PM #1
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Why must they sabotage the others to help Louisa? Can't her raw talent get her to finals.

I won't mention giving her a pimp slot this crucial week as they put her on early in previous weeks when there was zero chance of her elimination. Now that it's crunch time she gets a late slot.

Sabotage #1 Che - opening the show is fine, but opening with a ballard? Yes love and heartbreak can mean uptempo. Giving Che a Beatles song was lazy and uninspiring, a song that was never going to be popular with a reworked cover version, so why not give him a song from last 3 years. Let's make him contemporary, let's see what he can do with a song from a current artist eg Jess Glynn, Jason Derulo, John Newman etc.

Sabotage #2 Anton having got the woeful Bang Bang / About the Bass the damage was done. Is Cowell a bit careless? He gave Bupsi a crap song, out. Max, crap song. Out. Neither got a sing off. Is this the same Cowell and Co who last year cleverly picked out Uptown Funk for their favourite- Fleur ?

Sabotage #3 Lauren got to no1 on iTunes last week, sssssss. Getting too popular. Give her another diva song Mariah Carey. A MARIAH song that's fast and tricky to sound good. Dress Lauren in a frumpy outfit. Voila.

Sabotage #4 4th Impact, another song change so they can't demonstrate their dance routines.

Reggie and Bollie are Teflon they are what they are. Unless the are made to sing a ballad they can't be sabotaged.

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The only way to get a pretty white girl to win is to sabotage everyone around her it seems.

It's like series 10 in one aspect in the sense of that these acts are gonna have to use the sing-off as a way to showcase themselves as the production are certainly not helping the other acts because it seems like they've already got their favourite.
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Louisa doesn't need help to win XF she has a pretty great shot if she wasn't getting 'help'(which she isn't). Her voice is amazing and she's a star
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I wouldn't say that 4th Power are being sabotaged. The ideal result for Simon would be 4th Power and Louisa in the Top 2 as they're really the only two acts left that probably won't flop.
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Louisa will flop though Dezzy as she's too dated like Sam Bailey.

That's why his sabotaging 4th Impact so that they get the success after the show.
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Louisa looks set to be a global superstar tbh
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Louisa will flop though Dezzy as she's too dated like Sam Bailey.

That's why his sabotaging 4th Impact so that they get the success after the show.
Ummm, no.
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Ummm, no.
Which modern sound could Louisa go down? It's all Dance, Rock, Indie, and Dark Pop nowadays and Louisa is none of those imo.
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I said this 1000 times Louisa's style is farr tooo American. I would be very surpsrised if she wins. Saying that they are 100% trying every trick in the book to get her to the finals at least. Notice every Sunday when all the contestants sing together Louisa somehow always has the limelight on her/best parts of the song/ all the attention from the judges on her.

It is quite unfair on the other contestants because things like this are very instrumental in the outcome of the votes/popularity of the contestants.

I am not really a fan of her actual voice, but she is a good singer and would be a worthy winner, but as I have said 1000100202020202 times, her style is probably farrr too American to win the British version of the Xfactor.

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I think Louisa has a very good shot at winning. Only RnB can stop her. Vocally her only competition left are Lauren and Che who have both sabotaged: Lauren has 4th Impact-gate and Che was in sing off which doesn't mean he can't bounce back ala James Arthur, but there's only a few weeks left.

I don't hate Louisa BTW. She's clearly also talented. And rightly or wrongly marketable looks. However she is being favoured, gets the best : best outfits (Monica, Keira, and Lauren have all had wardrobe blunders) best songs, best staging . I now think Monica's return was to sate angry fans and prevent any anti Louisa sentiment. This very much feels like a countdown to an inevitable Louisa coronation with Syco doing everything possible to prevent others from winning eg Anton is popular and has best voice, so sabotage him etc

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I think Louisa has a very good shot at winning. Only RnB can stop her. Vocally her only competition left are Lauren and Che who have both sabotaged: Lauren has 4th Impact-gate and Che was in sing off which doesn't mean he can't bounce back ala James Arthur, but there's only a few weeks left.

I don't hate Louisa BTW. She's clearly also talented. And rightly or wrongly marketable looks. However she is being favoured, gets the best : best outfits (Monica, Keira, and Lauren have all had wardrobe blunders) best songs, best staging . I now think Monica's return was to sate angry fans and prevent any anti Louisa sentiment. This very much feels like a countdown to an inevitable Louisa coronation with Syco doing everything possible to prevent others from winning eg Anton is popular and has best voice, so sabotage him etc
I was impressed the very first time i heard Che, but to my dismay he has let me down beyond belief, he has a total lack of power in his voice and relies on falsetto to hit the higher notes. No chance of winning and more than likely gone this week. Lauren started out a more accomplished singer than Louisa, she knows when to do the trills and when to reel it in a bit. To her credit Louisa has worked on this and has improved vastly.
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I don't find her attractive tho cuz she just reminds me of...
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"Jose Mourinho", if Louisa was half naked in your bed, bet you wouldn't be quick to say no. She's smug, sure, but unattractive she is not. Probably best looking XF girl for quite a few years.
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I still prefer 4th Impact and i hope they win.
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Not sure if 4I can win. I don't know who's who or any of their names bar Mylene. They are slick but lack charisma. They rehearse a lot that is evident but they lack the sort of individual personalities needed for a girl band eg Perrie Little mix, Sporty Spice, Cheryl Cole etc. Can't see R1 featuring them, Heat mag or the sun's Dan Wooton writing about them.

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Not sure if 4I can win. I don't know who's who or any of their names bar Mylene. They are slick but lack charisma. The rehearse a lot that is evident but they lack he sort of individual personalities needed for a girl band eg Perry Little mix, Sporty Spice, Cheryl Cole etc.
They always top the youtube views by a lot. I think they will win.
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Louisa will flop though Dezzy as she's too dated like Sam Bailey.

That's why his sabotaging 4th Impact so that they get the success after the show.
did you really just compare Louisa to Sam Bailey
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They always top the youtube views by a lot. I think they will win.
YouTube is international so this improves views but the public doesn't really know them. 1D, Little mix, JlS were individuals who we got to know. I bet 90% of XF viewers can't name 4I members and of the 10% who can most won't know who is who.

Also Pervy guys may view but won't vote....

Also Sudan Boyle on BGT received 6 times Yt views as diversity, and guess who won.

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YouTube is international so this improves views but the public doesn't really know them. 1D, Little mix, JlS were individuals who we got to know. I bet 90% of XF viewers can't name 4I members and of the 10% who can most won't know who is who.
That's because they're sisters and all look somewhat similar to each other
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tbh I like 4th Impact but I only know Selina because of the whole passing out drama

I think they need to work on their individual identities to secure a win
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Ross , agree they need to individualise. Little Mix (Rhythm Mix) were just another XF girl group but in week 2 or 3 they had a great VT which iirc Jesse spoke about online trolls and bullying, and Jade came across as quirky which led to a great performance and voila they went on to win.
Sadly to say 1 member of 4I needs to dye her hair, wear glasses just to separate them.

Anyway back to Louisa, she may be younger and trendier than Sam B but her and Lauren are quite samey to her. They have made Louisa a bit generic. Even her styling is bland, when she auditioned she had a "fake tomboy" style to her, now she's umber girlie. It's as if the stylists were hell bent on using outfits.

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"Jose Mourinho", if Louisa was half naked in your bed, bet you wouldn't be quick to say no. She's smug, sure, but unattractive she is not. Probably best looking XF girl for quite a few years.
UMM actually I don't find her attractive, she really does remind me of Lex Luger so trust me, I would be VERY QUICK to say noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! !!!!!
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