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24-11-2015, 08:23 AM | #1 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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https://www.rt.com/news/323215-warpl...-syria-turkey/
Conflicting reports about the whereabouts of the pilots. |
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24-11-2015, 08:30 AM | #2 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Diplomatic sh*tstorm ahead then, hopefully the pilots survive
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24-11-2015, 08:36 AM | #3 | ||
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Yes.I have warned of this in several threads.Last time a Russian jet entered Turkish airspace not too long ago Turkey said that they will shoot it down next time.Russia are NOT just in this to take out ISIS.
Turkey are a NATO member.If Russia decides to retaliate then oooh ****! |
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24-11-2015, 08:38 AM | #4 | ||
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24-11-2015, 08:50 AM | #5 | |||
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I'd be more concerned about the Turks than the Russians. Both have belligerent and nationalist leaders but Turkey have shown themselves much less interested in attacking ISIS and they know they can force Nato's hand against Russia.
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24-11-2015, 08:58 AM | #6 | |||
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Turkey is an ISIS supporter, so if they did shoot a Russian plane down, it wouldn't be a surprise. Turkey has always fallen in to that difficult grey area. Its great to have a strategically placed country within Nato, but their loyalties will always be questionable. Thank **** Blair's plan to get Turkey in the EU failed.
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24-11-2015, 09:24 AM | #7 | ||
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But it's not Turkey who are invading Russian airspace.The Russians keep doing it and keep getting warned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34907983 |
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24-11-2015, 09:38 AM | #8 | |||
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The Russians are claiming that the jet was sort down from the ground, while the Turks say it was given 10 warnings in 5 minutes and they shot it down
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24-11-2015, 09:45 AM | #9 | |||
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how do you think Russia would react if Turkey was invading Russian airspace?
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24-11-2015, 09:45 AM | #10 | ||
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Watch the vid above in the BBC News report.It shows the two Turkish F-16's in the air above.Russians are lying again.
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24-11-2015, 09:57 AM | #11 | |||
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They will never agree.
Next time stay away from touchy Turkey border side |
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24-11-2015, 09:58 AM | #12 | |||
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Will.
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Turkish military has shot down a Russian war plane near its border to Syria, Ankara and Moscow confirms.
The Russian Sukhoi Su-24 jet was shot down by Turkish F-16 fighter planes on Tuesday morning after violating the country's air space and ignoring nearly a dozen warnings, army officials said. However, Russia's Ministry of Defence claims the jet was in Syrian airspace, and was shot down from the ground. Footage shows the plane engulfed in flames as it comes crashing down in Syria's Turkomen Mountains, an area which has been the cause of recent tensions between Turkey and Russia. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3sPCNSfP1 Last edited by Will.; 24-11-2015 at 10:02 AM. |
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24-11-2015, 10:05 AM | #13 | |||
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Yes Down it went fast |
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24-11-2015, 10:14 AM | #14 | |||
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Russians are not too good on Geography, they are always invading the space of others.
Russian sub in the Scottish waters last week, no doubt they had just got lost. They do push their luck somewhat. |
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24-11-2015, 10:17 AM | #15 | |||
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I will continue to believe the Turks on this until we know otherwise. Putin lied about 'not' invading air space in Croatia so he's not to be trusted.
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24-11-2015, 11:22 AM | #16 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Before the war Syria was a stable, secular and relatively sophisticated country with solid standards of living and education. Yes Assad was a brutal dictator: many world leaders are. But the genocide, slavery, mass rape, beheadings and all the other atrocities that ISIS have committed put them in a different league to the Assad government. And he was never a threat to our own national security: ISIS are.
Thankfully the Russians have been quite restrained about this far and are not leaping to escalate it. Lets hope that continues even though both pilots are now reported to be dead. |
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24-11-2015, 12:26 PM | #17 | ||
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Daily Politics is saying that there is a possibility that the pilot who ejected could possibly have been captured by the Syrian Turkmen.They are Syrian Turks who were part of the Ottoman Empire and live on the border between Syria and Turkey.They don't like the Russians.Hopefully they don't kill him and piss off Russia as this could escalate tensions further.
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24-11-2015, 12:26 PM | #18 | |||
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You know my methods
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one is dead, i saw the video
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24-11-2015, 12:28 PM | #19 | |||
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Seems to be conflicting reports. Daily Politics did say one might have been captured but then referenced Al Jazeera saying both were dead. BBC News at 1 after that said different though, that the surviving pilot was on the run.
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24-11-2015, 12:29 PM | #20 | ||
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Also there are Syrian jets up.If they get in confrontation with a US/French jet then that is a risk as Russia are on the side of Assad.
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24-11-2015, 12:52 PM | #21 | |||
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Both Pilots are Dead
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24-11-2015, 01:03 PM | #22 | |||
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self-oscillating
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We will never know the truth of the situation. The Russians may have wanted Turkey to shoot one of their planes down. Turkey may have been trigger happy.
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24-11-2015, 01:18 PM | #23 | ||
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It will be slightly better and less complicated if both pilots died on the way down or on impact than if either one was killed when they landed.
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24-11-2015, 01:21 PM | #24 | |||
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Does NATO even carry that much significance any more? I hardly expect a Russian retaliation would prompt everyone involved to get up in arms (literally).
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24-11-2015, 01:22 PM | #25 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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A woman outside the Turkish embassy in Moscow
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