[LeatherTrumpet]

Selina from the Apprentice said last night "I dont like children"


What is going on with people who say that, what are they really saying or trying to get you to think about them?

[Niamh.]

That they're tough and not maternal maybe? Maybe a woman in business feels the need to "masculine" herself up so she's on a level playing field with the men? Maybe they just hate children but why say it? Definitely trying to make some sort of statement about themselves

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That they're tough and not maternal maybe? Maybe a woman in business feels the need to "masculine" herself up so she's on a level playing field with the men? Maybe they just hate children but why say it? Definitely trying to make some sort of statement about themselves

I thought this too. Selina seems to me the type to put on a facade, I think that's what she was doing.

[Livia]

It's her choice. Liking children is not compulsory, and I feel there are probably many more men who are not yearning to be a parent than there are women.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's her choice. Liking children is not compulsory, and I feel there are probably many more men who are not yearning to be a parent than there are women.

well she must have liked children when she was a child and I presume she likes children in her own family?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well she must have liked children when she was a child and I presume she likes children in her own family?

Maybe, I can't speak for her. I love my nieces... frankly though, other people's kids are not nearly so fascinating as their parents think they are.

Do you think it's more unacceptable because she's female?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Livia

Maybe, I can't speak for her. I love my nieces... frankly though, other people's kids are not nearly so fascinating as their parents think they are.

Do you think it's more unacceptable because she's female?

Not sure but it sounds worse as she is a women I guess


To be honest I dont believe anyone who says that and as has been said it is said to nake you think something about the person rather than it being a true statement

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's her choice. Liking children is not compulsory, and I feel there are probably many more men who are not yearning to be a parent than there are women.

No of course it isn't but I know people, my best friend for example, doesn't want kids but she's never said "I don't like kids". I can understand someone not wanting to have or care for kids but I mean kids are just little people, they're all individuals, saying that you don't like all kids seems more like something said to make people think something about you

[Vicky.]

Not wanting to have kids is miles away from not liking kids

[Livia]

Yeah, I see the whole "Dislike v Not wanting them" argument. But I do kind of see her point. Maybe I'll feel differently if I have my own, but kids are a bit of a pain in the arse if you ask me. Little attention sponges.Puppies though, or kittens... now you're talking.

[Kizzy]

I think asking some women in their 20s you'll get a very different response to the same women in their 30s... I blame the saturn returns

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, I see the whole "Dislike v Not wanting them" argument. But I do kind of see her point. Maybe I'll feel differently if I have my own, but kids are a bit of a pain in the arse if you ask me. Little attention sponges.Puppies though, or kittens... now you're talking.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, I see the whole "Dislike v Not wanting them" argument. But I do kind of see her point. Maybe I'll feel differently if I have my own, but kids are a bit of a pain in the arse if you ask me. Little attention sponges.Puppies though, or kittens... now you're talking.

Well the fact that you are actually considering having your own must mean that you can't dislike kids that much

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well the fact that you are actually considering having your own must mean that you can't dislike kids that much

Nobody likes a smartarse, Niamh. Especially not another smartarse.

You're right I suppose. I don't feel very maternal ordinarily, although like I said I do love my nieces and would do anything for them. Babies don't make me broody and I don't want to hold them. They cry,leak at both ends and are generally helpless. I hope that feeling goes away if ever I do have one though LOL...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nobody likes a smartarse, Niamh. Especially not another smartarse.

You're right I suppose. I don't feel very maternal ordinarily, although like I said I do love my nieces and would do anything for them. Babies don't make me broody and I don't want to hold them. They cry,leak at both ends and are generally helpless. I hope that feeling goes away if ever I do have one though LOL...

haha I'm sure it will

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

haha I'm sure it will

Til you get your first explodapoo that is

[Livia]

Vicky is not selling this to me, Niamh.

[Niamh.]

[Niamh.]

Seriously though I'm babysitting my 2 nephews and niece tomorrow night, so not used to very little people anymore

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Seriously though I'm babysitting my 2 nephews and niece tomorrow night, so not used to very little people anymore

I hear you. When my kids were little, I was a get down on the floor and play with them kind of mom. This summer a friend of mine from Germany had a crisis back home, and I and my daughter watched her boys for her for 4 weeks here while she was in Germany... I was a drinking coffee reading a book while they played kind of adult. I can't be enticed with the lego build or the tag in the park anymore

[LeatherTrumpet]

the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I hear you. When my kids were little, I was a get down on the floor and play with them kind of mom. This summer a friend of mine from Germany had a crisis back home, and I and my daughter watched her boys for her for 4 weeks here while she was in Germany... I was a drinking coffee reading a book while they played kind of adult. I can't be enticed with the lego build or the tag in the park anymore

I know right? I feel like I've done my time now Luckily my two kids are so good with them so they keep them entertained

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo

Oh God, I'd blanked all that from my mind

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Til you get your first explodapoo that is

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the poo that explodesthrough the nappy, right up the back through the neck and onto the hair and the fresh nappy is way over there and you have the baby hoisted up by both legs and she is whacking her hand in the poo

omg... those were the days

[Niamh.]

Mokka that guy in your avatar looks like a young chubby Tom Cruise