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05-05-2016, 05:16 PM | #1 | |||
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05-05-2016, 05:32 PM | #2 | |||
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"deserved a far longer sentence"
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05-05-2016, 05:40 PM | #3 | |||
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I saw this yesterday,she should have had a much longer sentence,personally I would have chained her to a kennel and left her there,time to get tougher on these cretinous lowlifes that abuse animals and neglect them.
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05-05-2016, 05:41 PM | #4 | |||
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05-05-2016, 06:03 PM | #5 | |||
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she needs to be put down the vile filthy hag
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05-05-2016, 06:06 PM | #6 | ||
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people who live like this are mentally ill
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05-05-2016, 07:51 PM | #7 | |||
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Exactly. Mentally ill with an alcohol addiction. People like her need a full medical assessment and the necessary treatment in the correct facility as well as being banned for life from owning or caring for any type of animal.
As sad and tragic as this is for those poor animals, I don't believe a normal prison is the right place to be sending her.
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05-05-2016, 09:25 PM | #8 | ||
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What a horrible scene,cretinous lowlife is the only description appropriate. |
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05-05-2016, 09:33 PM | #9 | |||
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its a tragic scene it really is. I always think its worse when this happens to animals or children when they are completely dependent on others looking after them.
With a house full of animals, those not caged would eventually turn on each other as hunger set in which is a horrifying thought. I'm also surprised that no-one heard anything because animals in distress are not quiet, and there were a lot of them. I don't think the full details of this have been disclosed. |
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05-05-2016, 11:35 PM | #10 | |||
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She's rotten and it'd be a shame if the tax payers have to foot the bill to look after the evil bitch.
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06-05-2016, 12:33 AM | #11 | |||
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I'm guessing she got a 3 for a pound deal on the Tango shower gel.
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06-05-2016, 09:15 AM | #12 | |||
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06-05-2016, 09:18 AM | #13 | ||
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she has got a illness and needs help.
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06-05-2016, 10:21 AM | #14 | ||
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Imagine the smell
But yes there is literally no explanation for this other than mental illness. She should be in a secure psychiatric facility, not a prison, which will only make her worse. |
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06-05-2016, 11:59 AM | #15 | |||
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Or just lazy ,filthy and uncaring.
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06-05-2016, 12:07 PM | #16 | |||
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Perhaps there should be some legislation to cover animal welfare and the mentally ill. If you can't look after yourself you can't look after an animal. This is a case of ongoing neglect and cruelty and she should have had a much longer sentence. And it's INSANE to think they've had to seize another cat and its kittens from her! Having a pet is a privilege and a responsibility. Once you've shown you can't handle that you should never be allowed to keep another animal ever.
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06-05-2016, 12:10 PM | #17 | ||
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There's "Lazy and dirty" and then there's "Gathering a tonne of animals and allowing them to starve and a house to be destroyed". Come on. A "Lazy, filthy and uncaring" person doesn't end up in the situation to have that happen in the first place. No "normal thinking" person does. The problem here is addiction and mental illness, as it is with a whole bucketload of the nation's problems.
What's the point in putting her in prison for a while only for her to come out worse than ever? Vengeance of some sort? It's entirely hollow. We are a civilised country and we believe in rehabilitation. Or, at least, we're supposed to. I know there are plenty of people desperate for a pitchfork to gnaw on. The real tragedy is that most of the time, once a person is this far gone, things are never going to change much. Yet another broken soul in a ****ty system. I just wish we'd stop letting people turn into this in the first place. THAT is how you stop these horrific stories from happening. Not by burning people at the stake after it's done. |
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06-05-2016, 12:12 PM | #18 | ||
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Apparently it's not insane Livia - it's the action of a completely sane and rational person who fully comprehends the consequences of her past and current actions. She was just too lazy to not get a load more cats.
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06-05-2016, 12:20 PM | #19 | |||
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If she is indeed mental, she will be in the system somewhere. If she's so far down that road that she let these animals die in an horrific way and we're going to accept that as an excuse, then someone should have stepped in long before now. Saying she has mental problems, which I assume is what you're doing, does not excuse her for this. The woman has no sympathy, no empathy and should never have been allowed a pet, let alone a whole menagerie. And now she should be motored closely, like they monitor animal abusers in the USA, because animal abuse and other kinds of abuse often go hand in hand.
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Anyway - the bolded part of your post is really my entire point. She's too far gone to be anything other than what she is at this point, but that is tragic. People shouldn't get to this point. People are dismissed and brushed under the carpet as they slowly disintegrate from childhood onwards and no one bothers to give them a second glance until it's FAR too late. That's just the society we live in. |
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06-05-2016, 01:43 PM | #21 | |||
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RIP Pyramid, Andyman ,Kerry and Lex xx https://www.facebook.com/JamesBulgerMT/?fref=photo "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, most people would be vegetarian" Last edited by Kazanne; 06-05-2016 at 01:44 PM. |
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06-05-2016, 01:47 PM | #22 | |||
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Seriously though, look at those photos, do you seriously think anyone who isn't mentally ill could live in those conditions? I have to agree with TS, she needs to be put into some sort of unit rather than prison. But definitely she shouldn't ever be allowed to keep animals again
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06-05-2016, 02:02 PM | #23 | |||
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People are bound to respond to a story like this on an emotional level but the truth is, this is a mental health condition and needs to be treated as such.
Animal hoarding nearly always leads to gross neglect of those animals and is a diagnosable mental illness. It is usually treated with cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) but has a 100 percent relapse without appropriate treatment. http://www.adaa.org/living-with-anxi...ects-can-peopl
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06-05-2016, 02:10 PM | #24 | ||
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Anybody that buys The butterfly effect 2 on dvd must be metally unstable that should have been an early warning sign right there.
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06-05-2016, 02:28 PM | #25 | ||
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The film is that bad. Amidst all that horror, it still stands out like "UGH... Butterfly Effect 2? NO." |
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