[arista]

Reported on all News today
and debated Live on Ch5HD AM
who stated that Girls may get higher Education
but the next busy years
The lads over take them,
and get on the Ladder of Work.

Bank Managers - mostly men
for example.


Its been like this for many years

[Toy Soldier]

True facts: there are more highly / genius level intelligence males (like me and you Arista) but also more males with very low intelligence (like Kirk, LT etc), whereas females tend to cluster around average or just-above-average intelligence (like Livia, Ammi, Kizzy, Niamh etc).

This means that in standardised tests such as GCSE's, pass (requiring average intelligence) results skew towards females.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

True facts: there are more highly / genius level intelligence males (like me and you Arista) but also more males with very low intelligence (like Kirk, LT etc), whereas females tend to cluster around average or just-above-average intelligence (like Livia, Ammi, Kizzy, Niamh etc).

This means that in standardised tests such as GCSE's, pass (requiring average intelligence) results skew towards females.

...just trying to charm and secure that place in Arista's bunker that Livia, Kizzy, Niamh and I have already got, eh honey...where's your level of high intelligence now, baby....come the apocalypse, the only zombies we'll be fighting will be on the X-Box and in full HD....

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...just trying to charm and secure that place in Arista's bunker that Livia, Kizzy, Niamh and I have already got, eh honey...where's your level of high intelligence now, baby....come the apocalypse, the only zombies we'll be fighting will be on the X-Box and in full HD....

I know what you had to do to secure that place . And I tried that too but he just wasn't interested! Sweet-talking is my only option...

"Baby" though . Don't tease, it's too early in the morning.

[bitontheslide]

girls mature earlier than boys and so tend to put more effort in to their early education than boys. Simple really.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

girls mature earlier than boys and so tend to put more effort in to their early education than boys. Simple really.

That's closer to the real truth; boys are more easily distracted at an early age and don't properly hit their learning "stride" until the late teens or even early 20's. Also the education methods are geared towards girls (male and female brains learn differently) simply because they are more attentive and "easier to teach" in general. Clever girls tend to do well, many clever boys do too of course, but what you will also find (if you look a little closer) is a lot of very intelligent boys completely "slipping through the net" and failing to achieve any sort of real education at all... which tends not to happen with girls anywhere near as often.

What I said above is true also though, though not in the extremes I might have made out. There's a more scattered range of intelligence with boys than with girls. You will of course get very intelligent and seriously challenged pupils of both genders, but across a wider population, there are more "above average" intelligence males than females and at the same time more "straight up thick sorry" males than females... with females instead tending to be clustered around the "slightly-above-average" range across the board.

[reece(:]

#LadCulture

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by reece(:

#LadCulture

There is an element of that too. A lot of perfectly capable guys deliberately underachieving to "fit in"

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is an element of that too. A lot of perfectly capable guys deliberately underachieving to "fit in"

This is definitely down to a class thing imo, I grew up in a not so "good" area and if you were good at school you were a swat or a nerd etc where as I live in a pretty "good" area now and the attitude is miles a part, the kids are almost competing with eachother to see who can do best and you'd be more likely to be made fun of for being thick. Completely different attitudes and values. I can definitely see how it happens that kids in poorer areas under achieve compared to kids in more affluent areas

[the truth]

There are such a tiny amount of male teachers at a young age that's the problen

[the truth]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

girls mature earlier than boys and so tend to put more effort in to their early education than boys. Simple really.

Over simplified . The gap keeps widening because s9 few male teachers

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by the truth

There are such a tiny amount of male teachers at a young age that's the problen

Originally Posted by the truth

Over simplified . The gap keeps widening because s9 few male teachers

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

There are such a tiny amount of male teachers at a young age that's the problen

Teaching in general needs to be pushed more as a career imo A big problem is that wages are so bad for teachers and especially in secondary schools anyone who's really intelligent and would make an excellent teacher have no motivation to get into teaching which is a sad state of affairs when it's such an important job really. My brother for example is fantastic at Maths and he always wanted to be a teacher but in the school he went to because he was getting such high marks they really pressured him to study something "better" than teaching and this is what you're dealing with. He ended up qualifying as an engineer, hating it and going back to become a Maths teacher anyway

[bitontheslide]

the sex of the teacher is irrelevant to which sex excels in early education, pure baloney.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This is definitely down to a class thing imo, I grew up in a not so "good" area and if you were good at school you were a swat or a nerd etc where as I live in a pretty "good" area now and the attitude is miles a part, the kids are almost competing with eachother to see who can do best and you'd be more likely to be made fun of for being thick. Completely different attitudes and values. I can definitely see how it happens that kids in poorer areas under achieve compared to kids in more affluent areas

Yeah it was the latter at mine, quite elitist and people in the bottom sets had a rough time with people taking the piss. My wife's school on the other hand it was the "sporty" kids who were popular (which just makes me think of US high school dramas, though an American friend has told me the "jocks and nerds" stereotype isn't actually the reality at most schools )

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

girls mature earlier than boys and so tend to put more effort in to their early education than boys. Simple really.

Very True

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

There are such a tiny amount of male teachers at a young age that's the problem

Yes thats wrong

[T*]

Originally Posted by the truth

There are such a tiny amount of male teachers at a young age that's the problen

haha WHAT

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Tom*

haha WHAT

No he's actually partly right there on this occasion, primary schools are desperate to recruit male teachers... But very few men become primary school teachers.

My daughter's school has just two male teachers out of about 15, a lot of schools have none at all.

One of them does look like a slightly chubby John Snow though, so that's a bonus.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No he's actually partly right there on this occasion, primary schools are desperate to recruit male teachers... But very few men become primary school teachers.

My daughter's school has just two male teachers out of about 15, a lot of schools have none at all.

One of them does look like a slightly chubby John Snow though, so that's a bonus.

My son is in his final year of primary and has never had a male teacher, my daughter never did either.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

My son is in his final year of primary and has never had a male teacher, my daughter never did either.

To be fair I don't think it's a new thing, my primary school only had one male teacher (a p6/7 teacher) and I never had him, I think he left when I was in p4. Had plenty of male teachers at high school and remember finding it weird at first.

[LeatherTrumpet]

girls are always swots at school thats why i pulled their hair

nasty swotty little teachers pets

[Tom4784]

I think girls are just more likely to be academically minded.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair I don't think it's a new thing, my primary school only had one male teacher (a p6/7 teacher) and I never had him, I think he left when I was in p4. Had plenty of male teachers at high school and remember finding it weird at first.

What's the solution though, you can't force people to study for careers they don't want to do especially when the pay is so s**t as well

I have to say though I'm really happy with how my son was taught all the way through primary, I don't think him being taught by a female teacher was any disadvantage for him

[Tom4784]

I had one male teacher in Primary School, he was a PE teacher mainly and he was awfully stereotypical. Put me off PE for years until Secondary School when I had some good PE teachers that made it tolerable.

I don't think the gender of the teachers matters in all honesty though.